Yeah there’ll be a fair bit atm. I for one won’t be back much on the Manjaro forum now, although I do like the monthly screenshot threads for inspiration 
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The other two forums belong to Manjaro and Arch? If so, what is the drama on the Arch forum?
Why do you care about drama on other forums? 
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I don’t care, I was just amazed that there’s drama on the Arch forum too, because I haven’t heard of that.
There’s ALWAYS drama on the Arch forums
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Well that’s the thing, drama on Arch forum always ends only one way - you’ll get RTFM and maybe a ban if you’re very lucky 
Try to (DON’T!!!) write something about systemd vs runit on Arch forum 
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Exactly. That’s one reason I hate going there for any pointers. It’s usually RTFM and the M is usually pretty awfully written and deliberately obtuse in order to foster a false/unjustified sense of elitism.
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Oh yes 
Well i kinda get it, it’s like…Security feature 
Probably exactly the thing that keep Arch great still…
It’s not meant to be user-friendly for anyone, for a reason 
Although, compared to Gentoo or Linux from scratch - it’s walk in a park
I always feel like Alice going down the rabbit hole when I make an honest effort to RTFM and figure things out on Arch … it seems like I start trying to figure out something I think should be simple and 45 minutes later I’ve followed 127 hyperlinks all over the Arch forum and wiki pages and I just forget what the heck I was trying to figure out in the first place!
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Some sections of the Arch wiki are beautifully written and concise. Other sections, as noted, are a wormhole of hyperlinks. One of the reasons for this is that they don’t want to repeat anything in the wiki, hence all the hyperlinking.
I use Arch, and I don’t feel elite at all. In fact I think I’m pretty approachable and friendly.
Arch has always been targeted to people with a decent level of linux experience, or to beginners who realize the amount of learning they’re going to have to do.
Whereas many GNU/Linux distributions attempt to be more user-friendly, Arch Linux has always been, and shall always remain user-centric. The distribution is intended to fill the needs of those contributing to it, rather than trying to appeal to as many users as possible. It is targeted at the proficient GNU/Linux user, or anyone with a do-it-yourself attitude who is willing to read the documentation, and solve their own problems.
(above excerpt from The Arch Way)
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I think the Arch Wiki is one of the most usable in the entire Linux world. The forum is another matter.
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Arch is a bit like Debian in this respect. Of course I am writing this because I have been using Debian for a long time and I still use Debian Sid in addition to EOS and Manjaro, Linux Mint, MX Linux.
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Ha, me too!
I think I’ve absorbed a bit of Debian DNA in my blood by now.
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Even Debian Sid has some majorly outdated packages. For example, their Plasma Desktop is still at version 5.17.5, when the latest is 5.19.4.
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Hello fellow! I think it’s also true that the two top Linux wikis are Arch and Debian, although in my opinion the Arch Wiki is even more detailed than Debian.
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Debian remains conservative, even in Sid (their Unstable branch).
You could call it “The Debian Way™” 
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It’s not “bleeding edge” - but it is bleeding edge for Debian.
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This is because Debian’s philosophy is slower, more secure development. You can get used to this. For example, I switched to a rolling release distribution because I wanted to use newer packages, but I also want to enjoy the benefits of the traditional, stable development model, so I kept Debian.
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I’ve used Debian before. The system was very stable. I never experienced bugs. In the end, I got bored with the lack of updates to newer software. Also, pacman is faster than apt-get. I’ve never had major issues in Arch or Manjaro either.
Indeed, Debian Sid isn’t even a real rolling release distro, though many like to call it that.The still in development branch is Debian’s own way, no other distro has one.
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try asking a newbie question at the Arch forum. The drama that will follow will haunt you.
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