I can see people in the future using hardware tokens.
They plug this thing to the phone, and you will be able to send messages…
This fight is just starting, it will be cat and mouse, it will never end…
The only way to finish this is if you have 1 million people in the political party, one single political party, a great firewall, allow only a few apps to your phone, block google and etc… We already have this in place working in a country that we all know…
Now that might work in theory, i like the idea, however problem with that is that you MUST be certain your contact using it as well (which you really can’t auto-verify i think? Perhaps there will be some future ways of doing it)…
Regardless, what we should do right now - is going hardcore against it, while we can.
Do you know what this reminds me of ? Have you watched Silo series ?
People there were arrested by the possession of relics 
Very good TV series, I recommend everyone to watch it.
True, they always start small. When you see this type of law being pushed, you know that hardware backdoor is they’re end goal.
Its insane to me to thinking that breaking E2EE on big platform will change anything. I heard some peoples talking about a deep thing, i don’t remember …
What a crazy world we living in. Pretty sure, if they tell us that for protecting women and children, we need to put cameras in each room, some will be happy. “Think about the childrens…”
You’re too soft, we must go all the way!
Exactly, this is just the beginning…
I think that UK citizens need now is to push their representatives to specify everything in details.
This law is so vague, they don’t specify reasons why people would get into this spy list.
They don’t specify for how long you would in theory be spied on.
They don’t specify anything, they are opening the doors to authoritarianism in a way that would let George Orwell with his mouth open…
UK citizens need to specify in details to those representatives exactly why anything like that should be immediately prohibited and those who are responsible at best should be fired (i prefer some serious jail-time or hanging though ).
I definitely agree with this statement (jail time)
They love being vague.
I have a great example: In France, we are already spied by our state. They pushed a project called Hadopi, the goal was to protect copyright holders by spying on the french network and punishing peoples that download pirated movies for example. Result ?
The ONLY goal was just to create laws for legally spying on people like in the US.
To be honest, i don’t have any hope for the future. We have lost 50y of social advancement in 6y of Macrotte. Don’t know for others “democratic” countries but mine is fucked since people have let the 5th republic happen. Because people wanted “security”, now our president can write and promulgate any law he want without any democratic representation. But don’t worry our current one only did it 12 times 
Sorry i stop with politics but i feel like its important to see that its the same methods than before and how this can have a really deep impact on things that peoples didn’t even think about.
You are not alone my friend… I can say the same of my country.
I will stop here too.
But I really think that there is little or no hope for the future…
Yeah we should all do a mass drinking of koolaid to make a point so there aren’t many people left to spy on.
Don’t forget to call me when that happens 
If the koolaid does it’s work I’ll be incapable of communicating with you, unless I’m able to contact you from the other side.
Nope we shouldn’t get demoralized, instead what we should do is wear 
makeup and protest that hardcore.
@GolDNenex
It’s pretty much everywhere, there is no free countries in the world now, just different degrees…but they all always follow the leader in terms of tyranny.
Or just block all the traffic on roads like all the “Stop Oil” protesters.
I have no idea for the life of me why were still going on about this.
UK passes the Online Safety Bill — and no, it doesn’t ban end-to-end encryption. The British government’s controversial Online Safety Bill finally completed its passage through parliament.
Everyday that goes by, if we are right and I believe we are, you will get a better picture of that..
In Brazil we have a saying.. “Só a cabecinha” and “Pau não tem ombro”
I won’t translate that, sorry…
That is where we are now.
It has not passed Royal assent yet, that’s why everyone should be informed and protest it before it does.
You have no idea and clearly no willingness to even try to have it?
Ok, then just pass along, there’s no need to understand everything and constantly tell everyone about it, nobody forces you to.
For instance - i really don’t like and don’t understand mumble rap, but nobody forces me to listen to it.
A backdoor in end-to-end encryption makes the encryption useless, if the government can use a backdoor so could some hacker if the government gets hacked or if they find some other way to get access to the backdoor.
I already know this from the beginning.