10 has scheduling issues with 14th gen Intel.
My PCs and laptops have been free of Windows for more than a decade. I haven’t needed Windows, or any Windows specific apps in that time. I honestly can’t imagine anything Windows or Windows apps offer that I can’t achieve in Linux.
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I don’t need Windows anymore either and have purged it, but a lot of people like their kernel level malware games and those mostly run on Windows only.
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Oh. I see. I didn’t knew that.
It applies to 12th and 13th gen as well and any Intel CPU with a hybrid architecture. Proper scheduling for these processors was only included in 11 and not in 10. I should clarify that my brother uses a 12th gen CPU and that is why I preferred 11 IoT LTSC for his machine.
Despite that, from what I can see, Linux still manages to schedule and utilise my CPU better than 11, which I found kinda funny…
IF Microsoft WAS smart (obviously they are NOT), they’d provide computer enthusiast with a stripped down minimal Windows LTSC build, perhaps with a rolling LTS kernel, negating the need for a Windows 10, 11, 12, etc… It would just be a continually evolving Windows LTSC. I still have a Windows machine, but I certainly DON’T need it.
Microsoft considers the LTSC branch to be for enterprise, not normal, desktop users. I doubt that Microsoft wouldn’t provide that, considering Pro seems to be the prosumer version of Windows. I don’t really agree that it is that different compared to Home, but that’s a different topic than the one I want to talk about.
I don’t think Microsoft has this “rolling LTS kernel” like Linux has. They just have their kernel and they ship different modules and supporting bits and bobs to different people. Everybody is on the same kernel. Windows versions are more to introduce very radical changes from one paradigm to the other or to improve one paradigm significantly from the previous version, while also introducing new ones. For example, from Windows 7 to 8, they introduced the Metro UI and UX. It was a failure, so with Windows 10, they combined the two of them into one. You can argue that Windows 11 doesn’t respect that so much and I will tend to agree with you, but until very recently, this was basically how things went.
One last thing: While I understand people here hate Microsoft, and other very large tech companies, and I don’t like them much either, saying they aren’t smart is like saying that tomatoes, biologically, are vegetables just because cooking wise we use them as such. They have a massive amount of power and influence. Walking about with such heat brings on a certain responsibility. I don’t agree with many of their ways, but saying that Microsoft isn’t smart is silly. Let’s try to stop being so explosive when it comes to Microsoft and other big tech companies. I feel like it makes us look too extreme for many and I believe it blinds us from some developments we can make here on our side that will benefit us and others that want to come in.
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Nah. Screw that. Screw Microsoft! 
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I’ll stop hating on Microsoft when they stop shoving garbage and AI fads I don’t want in my face. Not that they’ll ever manage to gain me back, I’m already in love with the penguin.
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There’s a relevant piece of wisdom that I believe originated in the world of prize fighting - never talk down your opponent.
If you go out there and run your mouth what a pathetic loser the other guy is, there are two outcomes:
- You win, in which case you beat someone you yourself described as a pathetic loser, so who cares?
- You lose, in which case you just got humbled by a pathetic loser, so what does that make you?
Personally, I don’t think @winnyace was suggesting anyone stop ‘hating’ on Microsoft - it was simply a call for reason and restraint from the frequent overzealous “rah rah” speech that has a tendency to drive people away (if you come across a dispute between two parties and one of them is pants-on-head frothing while the other remains calm, which do you think is the more reasonable party? )
Quite rightly stated, they aren’t a “stupid” company. There are plenty of things they could be called (evil, unhelpful, shortsighted, monopolistic, the list goes on) but “stupid” is a poor descriptor.
They know exactly what they’re doing and why they’re doing it, the fact that we all disagree with their intents and their methods to the degree that we’ve already migrated away from them to the best of our individual abilities doesn’t in any way diminish the fact that they are indeed a very clever company.
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I agree with @winnyace. Was just joking around.
That’s why I used American slang and an emoji. 
It’s like, “Ain’t gon’ lie. You right. But **** all dat! **** Microsoft!” 
PS: I hope implied words aren’t against the rules. 
(sarcasm on)
perhaps they could integrate it better with Baloo
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recall is already on there in different forms and names, anyway
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Dunno, Recall seems pretty stupid to me. Not only is it practically useless but also the perfect advertisement for Linux. Especially now that I’ve heard it’ll work regardless of “Copilot+” eligibility.
Have pictures of everything that you ever do in a shared space that would be easy prey for an attacker. Bright idea indeed.
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And data stored from it in an unencrypted plaintext database from what I recall although it was ages ago now since I read about it. Or rather maybe it’s unlocked when you log in but either way it was exposed. Can’t remember if I am misremembering or not though.
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You seem to forget that most people don’t really know computers very well and this current AI trend is a very good way to oversell crap. It’s only a perfect advertisement for Linux to a new user if:
- You’re fine with giving up some luxuries because you do give up some luxuries from Windows. If they weren’t that important for you is a different story;
- You’re ready to learn a new way of computing entirely and most people aren’t.
Recall isn’t stupid. It’s a shortsighted, quick and dirty feature for their, IMO, failed new line of ARM devices that try to copy Apple (which is a completely different topic entirely), but not stupid.
Indeed. That was the meaning of the reply. 
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Respectfully disagree.
You can just read the article that was already linked above and be able to participate in an informed fashion.
You guys still trust a word MS says?
Some people do, some people don’t. But we have to at least acknowledge what is claimed to then check if it matches reality. We have moved on from a “shared folder of screenshots” meme.
On a personal note: I’m convinced somebody will copy that feature for Linux, and there will be no secure enclave or other BS, it will just live in a folder with user permissions. 
Very much the same on this side. Agree to disagree.