Wayland or xORG Vs X11?

[Zesko]

@rabcor

You must be a wayland developer.

I am not a Wayland developer but I understand the basics of how it works.

@rabcor

Also, why are you talking about a keyloggers as if that is a program you would want to have on your PC? Who the hell would want a keylogger on their PC? I do not want a keylogger on my PC,

Because you wrote: “Better security on Wayland against keyloggers”, but that is not true:

@rabcor

Wayland Pros:

• Better security (I think the main thing is that keyloggers would generally not work on it

[smokey]

@rabcor

keyloggers as if that is a program you would want to have on your PC? Who the hell would want a keylogger on their PC

Someone who knows no one else should have access to their PC and wants to record all keystrokes, or compainies wanting to make sure their pcs are only used for specific tasks. As long as people know this is taking place I see no issue with it if the end user wants it and it is able to be turned off/on and off is the default

[rabcor]

But you proved my point, it would be an ungodly pain in the ass to make a keylogger that would work on wayland without root access, it’s not that hard for X.

I’m talking about malicious keyloggers here.

@smokey it was sorta a figure of speech, i know creepy big brother wants to be able to spy on you, and I know extremely paranoid people do extremely weird things sometimes. I can also even think of a very small handful of practical applications for such a keylogger.

[Kresimir]

@rabcor

Wayland Pros:

• Better security (I think the main thing is that keyloggers would generally not work on it, yeah, that is about all i got, there’s some more but it’s all centered around isolating applications from all other applications)

I’m going to press X to doubt. There are keyloggers for Wayland…

@rabcor

X11 Cons:

• Some security issues.

Have you personally experienced any security issue on X? I haven’t…

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Timeless classics:

Wayland or xORG Vs X11?

@Kresimir [image]

[rabcor]

Show me a keylogger for wayland. On wayland I cannot even have an application that has a global shortcut (like say a screen recorder that has a specific key combination to start recording) unless that application itself is selected.

As for what I think about it, well it is more secure sure, but refer to wayland cons 4-6, this is a perfect example of them.

As for security issues on X, let me think…

No, I haven’t personally experienced any… Only the keylogger one is obvious to me.

[Kresimir]

@rabcor

Show me a keylogger for wayland.

Took me less than 2 seconds of searching:

GitHub - Aishou/wayland-keylogger: Proof-of-concept Wayland keylogger

https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/11h5tvl/wayland_security_keyloggers_are_back/

@rabcor

well it is more secure sure

I’m going to need to see some more evidence than “sure”, before I believe such wild claims.

[rabcor]

Ok you win.

I’ve edited the post, I hope you’re happy now.

I’m not happy, I’m suffering for literally nothing. I mean I do like Hyprland, but now i find myself sorta wishing I could just have it on X instead, there’d be like 800 fewer holes for me to plug there.

[Kresimir]

@rabcor

I’m not happy, I’m suffering for literally nothing.

I use dwm, and have no desire to ever use Wayland. Switching from Plasma to dwm significantly reduced my suffering. I like dwm because it’s so simple that I can understand its source code, so I can hack it and patch it and do with it what I want.

[rabcor]

@Kresimir

I use dwm, and have no desire to ever use Wayland. Switching from Plasma to dwm significantly reduced my suffering. I like dwm because it’s so simple that I can understand its source code, so I can hack it and patch it and do with it what I want.

I switched from plasma to hyprland, i’ve been meaning to switch from plasma for ages, and i happened to try hyprland and it worked, first time wayland has ever, in any sense of the word worked for me.

Dwm looks like it might be kinda fun, i’ll probably try it next time i feel like switching.