so ya yesterday (or day before ) i made a joke about digging in deep deep to find a solution to my TB connectivity issue , joke being i ended up on Fedora Problem connecting thunderbird - #11 by 3nd
well turns out the joke was on me …what a bloody nightmare Fedora is
I thought it’s an established distro and what not , but from get go (installation to using) almost nothing works properly out the box .
Anyway , not here to bash Fedora , just saying it was a PAIN …
So here i am , back on trusty EOS , and everything works ( well i haven’t set up my email yet lol)
Only bump i had with this installation this time round , for some reason it kept getting stuck on 32% with the online installer , so eventually installed offline, which installs the KDE Plasma by default. Now i have always been on Xfce cause my specs are shait , but so far with Plasma my PC is doing ok , I will see how it goes .
So now i got to fumble around with a new DE i never used …happy days !
But ya ,to get to the apology , so so sorry i ditched EOS in a hurry at the 1st sign of trouble lol…
It’s the damn distro hopping bug in me that wants to explore, and what better time to explore , when current distro is giving me headaches lol
Interestingly enough. I had my wife go with Fedora a couple years ago because for many folks it’s unfathomably simple to use. She knows nothing about computers, and has never used a terminal, and she’s been using Fedora trouble free going on 2 years now. She just clicks update.
yea that is weird ,i have installed/used many different distros before , but never battled like i did with Fedora.
i don’t know …and don’t care lol
done with Fedora , been there (almost) , done that (not really )
You’ll get there. I didn’t understand it the very first time I tried it. I was kinda lost. Arch was massive in helping me understand linux overall. I still don’t really get it. Thanks to the folks who helped over the years!
I used to hop a lot. Then eventually after like. . . . I dunno 8 years I finally got mostly over it and now I’m stuck lazy. You’ll be gone. And probably back again soon enough.
I have found that the on-line installer can sit at 32% for up to 15 minutes. I assume it is dependant on how fast it can download all the packages. Plus I have found it quicker using ethernet than wifi so there’s lots to slow it down. Just for shniggles I installed Cinnamon on a 2007 Acer 6930G 4GB laptop with a 15 year old Intel SSD t’other day. You know what - it’s not half bad but the install was glacial.
nah it sat at 32% for like an hour ,then i stopped it . I am connected with ethernet .
but i’m actually glad now cause i ended up with plasma which seems to run good on this PC , i thought it would be slowed up …
When I tried Fedora, it was so problematic that I’ll never use it again. I also recognise that the vast majority of users have a very different experience, otherwise no one would use it!
Yeah, I had a similar experience with CachyOS. While almost everyone praises it as one of the best Arch-based distributions, especially for gaming, I couldn’t even get past the installation process.
I also never got hang of Fedora, but have understood that it’s quite solid one. But everyone’s setup is everyone’s setup and sometimes things that are supposed to work just don’t work because Machine Spirit is restless or something.
I think I’ve succeeded with almost every distro there is. That doesn’t mean I necessary favor them, but I do put in the effort to successfully try them and figure out what they’re about.
The ones that drive me crazy are the ones where media codecs aren’t installed by default…since the reaction for most users is ‘It doesn’t work’ if they can’t play a youtube video in their browser. I would imagine most newcomers simply abandon them at that point and go somewhere else, which is a disservice in many ways.
The old folktale that Plasma is heavy isn’t true, - it’s one of the lightest desktop environments around. My fallback was always XFCE, especially for non-headless servers, but I haven’t felt the need to use it for a while now. Find what works for you. My experience with Fedora (admittedly twenty years ago) wasn’t positive, and I quickly moved on. I’m sure it’s miles better now, but EOS is just beautifully put together.
Such a nightmare I have my 78 year old mother running it for the past 6 years, completely troublefree.
When I see these tales, it is almost invariably the user…I say this because I was there. You cannot approach Fedora like you would an Arch clone. It does not do the things the same way. You always have SElinux in the background potentially breaking things, or the default repositories don’t give you what you think they should. It took me three tries, the third simply because I needed to get up to speed with Redhat distros for work and I firmly committed to using it. Been on Fedora now for pretty much all of my systems for seven years, and they have been trouble free.
So yeah don’t Fedora with Archlinux preconceptions, and don’t expect to casually master it. It works for most users out of the box. It needs commitment though to power use, just like any other distro.
Installing and doing the first update and getting major dependency problems isn’t going into it “the Arch way” besides, I hadn’t used Arch back then. I resolved the issues and used it for a few days, but when my next update also gave me dependency issues, I said screw it and moved to Tumbleweed.
Must have been pre Fedora 28, it was a little messy back then. Fedora 24-27 saw major moves towards a stable experience and by Fedora 28 the days of being issue ridden were in the rearview mirror.
Since Arco is a dead fork now EOS is easily the best distro of Arch out there, for us unwashed masses. I had issues with Manjaro having access to the packages I want (restricting the AUR to only Manjaro approved ones, for instance I couldn’t use LibreOffice fresh or LibreWolf browser, or my preferred VPN) without having to delve into extraordinary technical realm (Oh, I am aware that git is “easy to use” but the tutorials aren’t designed for noobs and I’m a habitual noob in the linux space).
Ubuntu is ok it works and is clean. RHEL is amazing, if you have an IBM support contract. In my experience IBM is nothing if not efficient, the wealth of technical ability in the people they have at “entry level help-desk” positions is frankly absurd. Don’t get me started on their field techs, absolute experts at their area.
Yeah ten years ago it definitely had problems, not anymore. Of all the non Enteprise distro’s I regularly test drive it is probably one of the most stable considering it is essentially a rolling distro even though it follows the release model methodology.
