Should Linus(LTT) Pick Endeavour as his Daily Driver?

I like EndeavourOS a lot but, in this case, I’d have recommended Mint. However, seeing that the other guy already picked that, I’d go with Zorin as a backup. Both are good options for someone coming in without a lot of familiarity with Linux to begin with.

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yea, I want to tell Linus to stay out of the AURs and stick to just the curated software or flatpaks.

Can’t wait to see when Linus will update to latest X11 on Manjaro, oh boy it’s such a time-bomb :rofl:

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But isn’t he only using Linux for a month?

What is the point then?

As a complete Linux novice he has a lot to learn, but by the sounds of it has no interest in learning any of it, or using Linux long term.

So I ask again … what is the point of this, apart from shameless click bait?

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  1. Make profit
  2. Make fun
  3. “Officially” prove or disprove that “Linux” is finally a noob-friendly system :sweat_smile:

P.S. :postal_horn: :clown_face:

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People forgets that he is content creator. He will do whatever that gets him more clicks and profit.

But because of this video, hypocrisy among linux users is clearly showing:-

  1. Should this happened to any normal user, then the point blank answer is “You ignored the terminal warning”. But, apparently same doesn’t apply to LTT. The same guys are saying it’s not his fault for skipping the warning or who will read the wall of text.

  2. I read many guys are advocating that GUI should be everything and LTT should not have to touch terminal. These same guys will say to normal people that terminal is way to go.

Imo, LTT doesn’t represent average normal people. He is tech savvy guy who is pretending to behave as a normal user, but he will not able able to simulate that.

I was a normal user and when I made jump to linux, I dedicated some time to read the support pages of the distro. I did not go around blindly following what some random internet page says. I was mentally prepared that using linux will not be same as using windows and i think any user jumping to linux knows at least that.

Sorry for the rant.

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I guess he knows his audience better. His typical subscriber might be an idiot. You are already here, so this means you have a larger than average curiosity (and willingness and understanding to immerse yourself in a non-noobish arch-based os).

I guess to most of us watching this concern of Linus doesn’t apply, but to his 14million subscribers I guess it mostly does. Remember we are the “Linux community” he so “fears” :slight_smile: Even Luke has mentioned the fear of this community.

You are probably not one of his followers. Just look at any of his thousand of videos and you will notice this video is not about Linux. LTT is a cult and a profitable business, he needs to get videos out and people need his videos to consume. By scratching the Linux surface he brings a level of novelty to his followers and they enjoy this. This video is about him experiencing something. I hate half of his biases and values he promotes, yet i watch his videos. He is a good showman and has high quality editing.
I’ll name a few of the imbecilic things he promotes:

  • Gaming über alles - it’s like all his decisions have as end-goal to improve his gaming life, as if that’s the goal of life itself (and this stupidity he spreads to all his non-discerning young users, influencing 14 million people towards gaming as a life-style, or rather non-life)
  • RGB - useless industry fad
  • Freely giving up any of his personal data and immersing in anything digital without discernment: Facebook Oculus, Apple ecosystem, Alexa, Android ecosystem, home automation, having internet connected monitoring cameras in his whole house, you name it.

Manjaro usually weathers out such problems. Especially very large issues that are being made public by large communities, they just sit on it until the issue is resolved upstream, and only then do they release it to their repos. Manjarao issues updates approximately monthly, so they can afford to wait out the glitches. In my experience this really contributes to increased system stability compared to plain arch and I expect Linus to not experience any disruptions caused by updates.

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We’ll see, that wasn’'t my experience with Manjaro so far - in fact they stepped on more rakes than Arch ever did and solved them with some significant time lag :laughing:

That’s one of the reasons i’m here :enos_flag:

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well i guess as most things in life it all depends. it was my experience, I guess it really matters what configuration and DE you are running.

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At least the other guy is more level headed about it and seems to be really giving it a proper go, no doubt his fan base is going to base their opinion on his experience more so than the other guy.

I’m not a PC gamer myself but it’s clear to me with the steam deck and valve throwing their weight behind proton and Linux gaming in general it looks like things are only going to get better for those of you that do.

There’s still a chance that some users that were already curious might give Linux a crack, but it’ll be a heap of viewers only real exposure to Linux and it will be tainted by his attitude.

That’s not to dismiss all his views, he does make valid points but he just comes off as overall negative to anything that doesn’t suit him 100% of the time.

The challenge lasts 1 month, but he could always to decide to stick with it. For instance, Luke installed Linux on his work laptop because he’s really enjoying Linux in that aspect.

Pop!_OS had a horrible bug that deinstalled the DE and XOrg when he installed Steam, so he went to Manjaro.

There have been knock on effects at System76:

“Jeremy’s decision to pull away from Pop!_OS was not tied in any way to Chris Davis’s recent blog post. Instead, Jeremy found that too much of his bandwidth was being used up addressing comments related to the recent Linus Tech Tips YouTube video, and decided to shift his attention to other projects within the company.”

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This reminded me that Zorin was using a custom GNOME version. I’m not sure if they still do, I have not been following. Zorin was the first distro I installed and I gotta say I turned out great. :enos_flag: I used it all the time on my laptop and had no issues. On my desktop, the only issue I had is the network card would only work for a day or 2 and then be gone forever, unless I reinstalled. (probably I was too noob to fix it). All to say their custom GNOME DE was working fine and never had issues.

Linus wants a good GUI for everything, as we all should. GUI has been the most important thing that made computers usable for everybody since the 90’s. It amazes me that the “hard nose” Linux users insist on doing everything with the terminal. Yeah, it should be an option. A back up.

It’s nice to see that file managers get some love. Linux really does this better than OSX/macOS or Windows. Like it’s combining the best parts of both worlds.

They still haven’t talked about their experience with system resources/overhead. At least my PC works much smoother on Linux than it ever did on Windows. Worked great on macOS (hackintosh) too until Apple ended NVidia support. Gaming and everyday use is much more enjoyable on Linux as a result.

Why not embrace the power of the terminal? If someone wants to truly experience the power of Linux, shouldn’t they learn the terminal? Treat it as the main and not the side dish? :rofl:

A bit of command line love

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Like I commented above… terminal just isn’t for the average user. Humans like a good visual experience. I for one get stuff done much faster using a GUI. I also manage with the terminal, but I always pick the way that’s easier and more fun to use.

I agree, but Linux is also not used by your average user :grin:

Just making the point that perhaps we should not try to hide the terminal to the new user but rather embrace it’s use.

Bollocks.

With so many different independently developed open source components integrated into a customized Linux OS, it is naive & unrealistic to assume all system config can be managed through a GUI. Higher level config generally can, lower level config never will.

This may be feasible on commercial, proprierary, monolithic, spying operating systems; where everything is developed in house by corporations that consider your system to actually be theirs.

The same proprietary operating systems where you can only configure what these organizations want you to access, not the entire system, because they consider your system to be theirs.

Attitudes is a drug for these corporations, more opportunity to lure in and exploit an increasingly apathetic, ignorant, halfwitted population.

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We are talking about average users here. The average person does not need to access the roots of their system.

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