Plasma Wayland - good for general use now?

Hello fellow Endeavourers,

I was just wondering if the consensus now is that Plasma Wayland is pretty much good for the average user to use as a daily driver, or if it’s not quite there yet?

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It depends on what applications you use and what your specific use case is. It is still considered experimental by KDE and there are definitely some things that don’t work properly on Wayland.

That being said, there are many people using it and some distros are even shipping it by default.

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sudo pacman -S plasma-wayland-session

Log out, choose Plasma (Wayland), try out yourself.

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I have - it seems to work fine about 98% or more of the time. Of course, I occasionally experience apps randomly crashing and/or my laptop becoming very hot. However, 'm not sure whether to blame Wayland/the implementation of Wayland or something else. With a rolling release distro, there are so many variables at play.

I’m curious to see what other people think of it.

I am using Wayland as my daily session with KDE and EOS in 3 computers since late October, without any specific issue.

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For almost 2 years now. But my use case is light, browsers, file-sharing, occassional office apps, command line stuff.

I stopped using it recently because I was frustrated by a few things that don’t work as well for me on Wayland.

I also thought this was a Wayland issue, but my fans are also blowing full speed on Windows 11 very often, more than on EOS, so it might be a firmware thing also.

Mouse speed feels laggy when scrolling through multiple apps especially when I have 2 displays

When I run the same setup on X11, it’s butter smooth.

So I’m having better user experience on X11 under Plasma.

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Hey,

IMHO, when I’m researching this topic usually I look at the device\hardware first. You can run this command in terminal to share your laptops setup:

inxi -b

Hey Bryan,

Is this on your Thinkpad … if so … which one?

Thanks a million. I’ve shared the output below and I would much appreciate any thoughts you might have on it.

System:
  Host: fiachra-thinkpad Kernel: 6.1.2-zen1-1-zen arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.26.4 Distro: EndeavourOS
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20RDCTO1WW v: ThinkPad E15
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: LENOVO model: 20RDCTO1WW v: SDK0J40697 WIN
    serial: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO v: R16ET36W (1.22 )
    date: 08/03/2022
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 37.0 Wh (92.5%) condition: 40.0/45.7 Wh (87.5%)
CPU:
  Info: quad core Intel Core i7-10510U [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1362
    min/max: 400/4900
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel CometLake-U GT2 [UHD Graphics] driver: i915 v: kernel
  Device-2: AMD Lexa [Radeon 540X/550X/630 / RX 640 E9171 MCM]
    driver: amdgpu v: kernel
  Device-3: IMC Networks Integrated Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.6 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.7
    compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: amdgpu,intel
    unloaded: modesetting dri: i965,radeonsi gpu: i915,amdgpu
    resolution: 1920x1080
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.2 renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics (CML GT2)
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Comet Lake PCH-LP CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    driver: r8169
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.14 TiB used: 696.13 GiB (59.5%)
Info:
  Processes: 331 Uptime: 5h 30m Memory: 7.45 GiB used: 5.79 GiB (77.7%)
  Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.24

No, my Thinkpad runs Fedora, it is on my Ideapad Ryzen 5 4600U, the one that was bought with the EOS donations.

In my case I have 3 Intel based Thinkpads (T430s, t450 + T470s) which I transitioned over 3 years from X11 to all Wayland (on Gnome). I have played around Plasma last year but never made the full transition. I can confirm the bugs I asked about in my past posts were fixed in KDE. I’m kind of holding at Gnome right now because I need stability in my daily drivers.

So far it’s been mostly thumbs up here with two notable exceptions: The mouse isn’t captured within Virtualbox guests (not sure it’s exclusive to KDE, though), and an issue with Libre Office windows not restoring properly, which is an easy fix

No, Wayland is not good for general use, with Plasma or with any other WM. Not even Xeyes work on Wayland.

It’s pretty good.

There’s this really funny(by funny I mean annoying) bug that happens when I shut down my computer, where it gets stuck at something about an SDDM stop job running. It takes a minute and thirty seconds longer than usual to shut down my computer.

Aside from that, I haven’t had any problems with Plasma Wayland(yet).

Are you on nVidia? Do you need gamma control? If so, then not quite there yet…

I’ts usable but is not stable. The bottom bar randomly crashes.

Well, I think Wayland has a long way o go at the moment. It is being rapidly developed as far as I know. Most of the big contributors to Xorg have switched to Wayland. But still, I think it has some way to go to be able to be used as an everyday driver. Until then masses should stick with Xorg let the deves and other people iron stuff out and eventually, it’ll become the new black.