I ran sudo pacman -S pipewire pipewire-pulse --needed and it appeared to install OK.
after reboot I don’t have any audio devices
pactl info shows
Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native
Library Protocol Version: 34
Server Protocol Version: 34
Is Local: yes
Client Index: 34
Tile Size: 65472
User Name: keithy
Host Name: ryzen-antergos
Server Name: PulseAudio (on PipeWire 0.3.24)
Server Version: 14.0.0
Default Sample Specification: float32le 2ch 48000Hz
Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right
Default Sink: @DEFAULT_SINK@
Default Source: @DEFAULT_SOURCE@
Cookie: a392:8c1a
Running Gnome DE and an Audioquest Dragonfly red USB sound card (this is probably the issue but I have no idea how to fix nor go back to standard pulseaudio)