Interesting… I’m not brave enough to tell the Arch maintainers to rename the linux-lts package though
Linux 6.1 should be the new LTS version, but it doesn't look like this in pacman
its labeled correctly on the page that matters:
Consider proper sense definition, when the LTS is newer than standard
There is always a first time for everything!!
We should mark this date!! , like with the grub event
We really need to recalibrate our Crystral Balls!!
So much for that
You mean balls?!
I have big balls, calibrating them all the time…!
that will actually be the case for some more days:
So far, no 6.2.1-rc1 has been propagated on LKML which means that such a .1 release is still at least 2 days in the future which in return means that 6.2 will remain in testing for at least 3 more days. Unless they (Arch maintainers) decide to be really adventurous and move the 6.2.0 Kernel to core. Looking at the new Kernel-bugs at https://bugs.archlinux.org that arrived after 6.2 was added to testing, that is very unlikely.
The only reason why a minor release would be made without an RC on the Kernel Mailing List is in case of a very critical CVE fix contained, and nobody wants that.
That looks to me like whomever maintains the lts screwed up.
It still doesn’t make sense. Even the kernel team manual posted doesn’t seem to think 6.1 is lts. . . . I don’t know why or who is doing the lts kernel, but I think they meant to have updated the testing repo and not core.
But the whole point if having different kernels is they are. . . Different lol.
So, I don’t have a clue what’s going on over there, but there’s a first time for everything. Very very strange indeed.
They didn’t screw up, they planned it:
and the only place where a LTS kernel needs to be declared is in the LKML and here:
Planned and executed …flawlessly!
Well someone did. There’s absolutely no reason to have two different kernels, that are the same kernel lol.
The userbases are completely different.
People using the LTS kernel won’t use mainline anyway and vice versa.
Issues arising with the update of the LTS package have to be dealt with anyway so now is as good as ever and older kernels aren’t available in the official repos anyway, so the debug-way back has to be
downgrade or getting kernels from other sources anyway.
The only thing that’s now a bit more difficult is debugging systems usually running the mainline kernel with a different kernel, but for that one can also activate testing and have a different kernel again.
I’ve always had both kernels, and I know many others who have both, it’s more common than not. It’s a good thing to have in case the other doesn’t work, which makes zero sense if they arent different. So ya, they shouldn’t be the same, someone screwed up on that one. Probably the lts maintainer, since they still also maintain 5.15 and the mainline hasn’t updated still.
I also have the LTS kernel installed, but I never use it.
if fixing bugs is screwing up, then yes, you are right. I already linked the bug reporting that Intel Wifi is broken with 5.15 due to
linux-firmware removing support for it and was fixed with 6.1 two times, I won’t post it a third time.
Fixing that bug seemed to be more important than a minor inconvenience for people who have both kernels installed but still use only one of them.
The thing is that some users will benefit from this decision, and some will suffer. Many will not even notice anything else than a new kernel version number.
I’m feeling lucky because my machines are working with all of the latest kernels, including series 5.15, 6.1, and 6.2 (now in testing).
There have been problems a couple or so times in the past, but they have been almost every time just Nvidia issues.
My car doesn’t run on petrol.
That’s convenient, because we also have this petrol.
I know it’s supposed to be different, but, it’s actually the same today.
Perfect, I’ll just push my car. Thanks.
Using an lts kernel is overrated! Sure if you use Ubuntu…that’s what you get. This is Arch based rolling. If your system needs lts then you either have old hardware or you bought the wrong hardware.
Edit: I used to run Mint with older hardware and i always used the latest kernels.
My experience long time ago with Ubuntu was they almost never got the LTS kernel for their latest LTS system. Later they provided it as a special update though.
Them having old software always was the reason I started to look at other alternatives.
linux-lts 6.1.14 this morning, and
linux is still stuck at 6.1.12. LTS is where all the action is at right now
Just thinking out loud with you.
I made this thread Set systemd-boot Default to LTS? as I found the system not defaulting to the LTS as used to be/expected.
So, I guess that currently my LTS is ahead of the default, it defaulted to the older (which is the main line not the LTS)
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