LibreWolf to Floorp?

I am increasingly becoming more irritated with LibreWolf breaking websites, so I’m looking for an alternative, and I keep hearing about Floorp. Has anyone made this same switch for the same reason and found it to have been a good move?

I use uBlock Origin, cookie autodelete extensions anyway with a Pi-Hole network blocker, so I’m feeling like LibreWolf’s privacy features may be redundant for me.

If you use Floorp, please tell me what you can about it in terms of using it as a daily driver. Thanks!

Sorry if irrelevant to your inquiry but why not just Firefox with multiple profiles each with different degrees of hardening according to the use case?

That is if you are not specifically interested to the changes that Floorp brings to the table when it comes to UI.

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I dont really see the “librewolf” as a good alternative to firefox for any reason. I already customize firefox to try to make it more secure on my own, and it’s essentially a perpetual battle trying to do so. I don’t find librewolf really does anything unique or provides utility beyond what I already do with stock firefox. Maybe that could change in the future?

Essentially with security/privacy issues you are always going to see major service providers take directions that break the functionality of software projects that don’t stay in lockstep with them. Hence, the “internet” works with firefox and it’s a painless experience. Simultaneously they’ve incorporated so many features that it’s impossible to keep track of or even develop an understanding of how they work, and what the implications are for privacy/security.

That’s certainly an option. I suppose you mean hardening via changing of ‘about:config’ ?

I think what has attracted me to floorp is hearing about the customization and how it’s similar to vivaldi. I never used Vivaldi, so I am not sure what to expect and how deep the customization really goes.

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you know firefox and google, and all the major tech companies bill themselves as humanitarian organizations. And I don’t find “librewolf” to be any different in that regard. Where’s the hard evidence? I can’t find any.

I feel the same way about Librewolf. I already modify my security settings, so what is even the point, lol.

I suppose it’s aimed at those who don’t change their settings or don’t know how to? :thinking:

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Somehow i doubt you recompile Firefox to completely cut out it’s mechanism to phone home via telemetry or what not else to Mozilla (in case you don’t trust such mechanisms)…
If not - you should.

Or just use LibreWolf as an easier starting point, because they already do all that.
It’s nothing more than pre-configured recompiled Firefox.

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Of course icecat is purely awesome. Everything out of gnu’s camp is totally fantastic. But it will dramatically change how you see/use the internet.

This is certainly an issue worth caring about

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Yes plus your own “regular” addons.

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Oh yea? how’s that the case. Because that is precisely one of the chief criticisms of these projects that attempt to develop new browsers, that they fail to restrict third party or unsolicited connections.

That aspect of the internet is built in unfortunately in all major technology products.

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Observe the source code of LibreWolf, try to monitor it with firewall, you’ll be surprised.
The only mechanism they still use by default (by popular demand of their clueless userbase) is auto-update for addons, because most people just not ready to read their addons source code and doing updates manually, as it was the case before…

Although if you will - you can disable auto-updates too.

P.S. And again - it’s NOT new browser, it’s just Firefox.
The only reason for the rebranding is some kind of Mozilla policy for that…

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I see librewolf in the same regard as major technology providers actually… as well as a variety of other “privacy” “security” projects. I see them as a provider of a false security to people that is actually dangerous to them.

As a tiny perfect example, it causes people to use major technology providers services with the unwitting sense that they are now secured by librewolf source code magic.

the real efforts to make secure technology break features and functionality that are designed to work with the direction of major technology providers and service providers by their own design. Their design is one that punishes user’s for failing to agree to their new constraints that reach into our homes, via our computers.

@Nomad

Here is a site where you can create customized user.js according to your preferences and use case:

https://ffprofile.com/#start

There are also premade user.js, like ArkenFox etc. with varying degree of hardening and restrictions.

Btw, you could download Floorp and run it’s binary as “portable app” without installing it, if you want to get a first hand experience.

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What…? :exploding_head:

There’s no false sense of anything.

  1. Compare it’s code with Firefox yourself
  2. Compile it’s code yourself
  3. Observe and compare network activities of both browsers yourself
  4. Use it, if you find it useful, or modify code further if you don’t like it
  5. Make your own conclusions about privacy and security

The whole idea of LibreWolf is to make it easier for casual users to start with something more sensible, cutting out all those major tech providers. And as long as both Firefox and LibreWolf are FOSS - it’s perfectly doable.

Sure it won’t fix the internet or idiots that are using it the way we see it now…
But it’s quite the opposite of giving false security / privacy.

It’s what :enos: is to Arch - making it easier and more sensible to start with Firefox, that’s all.

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Okay, that changes everything. Thanks for sharing that. :pray:

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So how do you honestly expect anyone to listen to that nonsense.

Tell your neighbor, who hasn’t spent their lives learning to program, to read the source code, and compile it themselves.
If you can’t explain what it does, and how it works, and librewolf can’t either, in plain english, then how do you expect anyone to listen to your argument?

I don’t expect anything.
Privacy is for those who want it, there’s no magic bullet to fix the world or win all arguments.

Those who want to be free(er) - will be.

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The most important thing to understand right now about firefox, might just be, that firefox will continue to change over time, and is not an organization which objectively has people’s interests at hearts in it’s development cycle.

That, is lightyears removed from saying oh there’s “free alternatives” of that product, which do protect your security, and your privacy.

I gotta say… The name Floorp is absolutely atrocious :joy:

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