As I did with the test install, I can install the OS without the drivers, then either set the DPI in KDE before (I haven’t tested this yet) or after I install the Nvidia drivers.
What I cannot do is install from the ISO with the Nvidia driver option. Does the ISO/installer DPI setting need fixing?
So to circle all the way back around to when I wrote the subject of this topic: It’s impossible to install the OS when booting the live session with the Nvidia drivers loaded - at least in my configuration and maybe for others that might never get reported.
I wonder, though, how many people have had this problem and simply gone on to use something else.
I’m thinking about the amount of people who, like me, have booted the ISO, found they had this problem, registered and account on this forum and then posted about it…
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The amount of people who booted this ISO, had this problem and couldn’t be bothered with all the faff on to report it and so booted another distro instead because that other one might ‘just work’.
Just because it’s not reported doesn’t mean it’s not happening. The reason I’ve done all this reporting is because I really want to use EndeavourOS. It would be nice to have a five minute install without having to know about a workaround for the drivers.
Now that I know what’s going on here, I’m fine with this. I’m going to redo my HTPC with EOS. I tested Jellyfin on the tester HDD and hardware acceleration is working perfectly fine.
At the same time, how many people have monitors that far exceed 96 DPI to make 96 not a sane default setting for everything in the ISO? After all, it’s forced in XFCE - why not everywhere else, like Qt?
I feel like it’s something that could, and maybe should, be changed in the ISO.
Actually, I’ve just found:
Where there’s someone with a similar situation: KDE and everything looks huge. Although their GPU is AMD. The fix they found was to boot with UEFI instead of BIOS. This is no good for me because this particular computer is too old and doesn’t have UEFI. However, my other computers do have UEFI. Maybe this is why I’ve never encountered this issue before.
There was one other thing from that thread:
So maybe it’s not such an issue now for more modern motherboards and maybe that’s why it’s not being reported so much.
The next ISO release is planned to have a completely different live session so we can re-evaluate at that point if this is discovered to be a broad issue.
Because nobody thought of it, because nobody before you reported it. You have very specific hardware, NoVidea + TV, it’s quite possible nobody before you noticed a problem.
And when you say: “what about people who didn’t report the issue, but just went on to use something else?”, my reply is: “who cares? if they can’t be bothered to report the issue, how are we supposed to help them?”
Because what if they tell someone else it just wouldn’t work or that everything about it went wrong? What if every forum post you see is full of people complaining that EndeavourOS doesn’t work properly and it has problems.
As to ‘who cares?’ - I do. Otherwise I wouldn’t have spent many hours testing, reinstalling, tweaking, configuring and writing all about this - all without giving up. Would you rather I and others simply ‘didn’t care’ about EndeavourOS?
Some people don’t have the time for all of this. Others might be too afraid to jump in as a newbie into a forum full of old regulars.
Some distro forums are… not that nice of a place to be sometimes.
That is a hypothetical completely void of any resemblance to reality. The reality is that EndeavourOS is a very popular distro, beloved by many, where things, for the most part just work out of the box, and in the rare cases where they don’t, there is a this very helpful and friendly community of people willing to go out of their way to help strangers.
You posted about the issue here, people who are complete strangers to you have spent hours of their time to help you, without getting any compensation. The least you can do is be grateful and stop complaining.
I don’t know of these hypothetical others who may or may not exist, so I can give you a definitive answer one way or the other, but I can say, in your specific case, I wouldn’t terribly miss the entitled attitude, ungratefulness and the passive-aggressive fingerwagging.
By using EndeavourOS, you’re not doing anyone a favour, except yourself.
I was told there would be a new ISO at some point and it might be considered. I left it at that. Then you came in hot with the highly biased term ‘NoVidea’ and I thought… ‘Ah, you’re one of those types…’ I wonder if there was any need for that. Do you also say ‘Micro$oft’ as well?
Anyway, after all the hours other people have spent helping me - on top of the many hours I’ve spent myself - I’m still sticking with EndeavourOS. Plus I’ve been asking about ways to help the ISO be a better experience for all. EndeavourOS and KDE run fantastically well on old hardware. So why is it a problem that I’m trying to help to make the experience better for others to repurpose their old computers instead of throwing them away or moving to another distro?
Yeah, seriously. You’re acting as if people should be grateful to you for choosing EndeavourOS instead of some other distro. As if you are some paying customer on whose patronage the survival of the distro depends.
As far as these mythical “others” you use as your shield, as far as I’m concerned, they do not exist. If they do, they can come here and ask for help, and I and many others will do our best to help them.
