Google's trying to DRM the internet

But what do you want to do about the tech companies? Refusing to use their services might be an improvement for the individual, but almost to no one will do this. Whats needed is a convenient, easy to use alternative with (almost) feature parity to Google and Co. Only then people will switch.
Good luck developing and maintaining such services without corporate funding.

Itā€™s so successful in fact, that SEC is attacking it :rofl:

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I never heard of LBRY, thanks. Of course I know Odysee, letā€™s hope it becomes more adopted in the future.
But these projects still donā€™t cover searching or websites or browsersā€¦ (Letā€™s not get into browsers here please, there are enough threads already)
And the problem of adoption remains.

Itā€™s the same, LBRY is just a FOSS protocol underneath it

When i was a kid growing up we used to always be told donā€™t put all your eggs into one basket. Not a lesson being taught today i would have to presume. I donā€™t care for those ā€œSilver Platterā€ types of programs. However even if i did I donā€™t want it being owned by and ad company. I remember when the internet was not owned it was great. However now it is being taken over by corporations who simply donā€™t care about you me or our children. Our freedom is in the way of their bottom line.

The vast majority of people want ā€œSolver Platterā€ programs. And you canā€™t change that, so if youā€™d want to actively decrease Googles influence youā€™d need to make something at least as good as Google (or any other of these services)
Complaining wonā€™t change a thing. Sorry, I know Iā€™m harsh, but thatā€™s how it is. I am not claiming I do anything against corporations etc., so I am not any better, but wanted to point this out.

Odysee requires an account before one can disable autoplay. That s a deal breaker for me.

If thatā€™s your dealbreaker, why not use anonymous account with some temp email?

yeah the vast majority of the people also want to be free from terrorist they just donā€™t want to be spyed on but they are anyways. The problem now is that its not just the governments spying on us now it includes Corporations.

your right complaining wont change a thing but Iā€™m not complaining just stated my view as you state yours. as far as being harsh this only encourages one to not listen to what your saying.

Before we know it will be required by law to have a Google cam in your toilet and in your shower for your own safety.

OK. I used a Guerrilla Mail address. Let s see how long the account lasts :male_detective:

Yea. It s pretty hard to call it all a conspiracy theory when it s so obvious. All one can do anymore is to throw out red hearings, and hope they take the bait, but I m not so sure how well that works anymore either. I ve been thinking lately about a computers UUID, and wondering how anonymous a person really is; even with a vpn. The govt. has some pretty cool toys.

VPN is a joke, it wonā€™t give you anonymity.

In my view, unless you use:

  1. 100% FOSS hardware (RISC-V)
  2. 100% FOSS software
  3. 100% FOSS router hardware / software
  4. Some server that you personally run your own FOSS DNS resolver software for your router
  5. Some network like Tor or lokinet for all connections, or just using Whonix

You can never be sure on anonymity, and even then theoretically you can be compromised, purely by your own mistakesā€¦

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I donā€™t like the ā€œDRM for the Internetā€ rhetoric, it immediately poisons the well. Actual DRM for the web would look and work differently.

Reading through the proposal the danger seems to be that only certain groups like OS vendors ala Apple, Microsoft or Google are able to implement and therefore decide which application are able to permanently access parts of the Internet.

Alas the proposal is extremely abstract on how trust authorities are actually implemented, but itā€™s hard to imagine how it could be done without an e.g. Secure Boot hardware backed chain of trust.

As a mitigation the ā€œHoldbackā€ idea is interesting. Nonetheless the establishment of those trust authorities canā€™t be ignored and sounds very worrisome from the ā€œopen webā€ perspective.

:beers:

If your browser canā€™t play videos at all, autoplay is by definition disabled.

:brain: :point_left:

How is that not DRM? Itā€™s literally DRM.

Thatā€™s as close as you can get.

The only way to be anonymous on the internet.

Is to stay off of it.

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You can get pretty close to anonymity with Whonix+Tor. Of course, there is no foolproof way, and you can never be 100% sure, but many very wanted men have been able to use this to have access internet access and yet they managed to avoid getting located for years.

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Yeah i remember when iā€™ve first bought a PC and was just doing stuff locally, then friends have agitated me that internet is super cool and you really need to get itā€¦I was like, wait NO. Are you nuts? Itā€™s not safe, anyone can trace back to meā€¦ :clown_face:

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