I know it is somewhat difficult to be completely apolitical as it relates to this topic but please try to keep it from going too far away from the original topic.
Iâm not so sure on that.
Edit: I think that cloud services provided no matter what country they are in should be 100% secure and privacy should be the utmost importance as long as users are abiding by the rules otherwise they should subject to scrutiny especially if cloud services are being used for criminal activity.
Fwiw I totes agree with you about corporations we are just a tool they employ to serve the shareholders. So much in fact the we are ourselves incorporated at birth in a legal fiction that is commonly known as a straw man. Our birth certificate with our names in all caps is proof of it. A full discussion of it can be found in episodes 47 and 48I believe of whatâs up prof on YouTube under amazing discoveries Africa.
The only side effects is only that those big companyâs only more invest in cloudservicesâŚ
is like somewhere in the netherlands they invest in windmills for 256000 households later there comes google/facebook with there services drive power use of also round 256000 households and they get some finance r some promise of green energie âŚ
only effects is you get cloud services to europeâŚinvestments⌠thats regulations mostly it is double edge sword
I just want to point out that these two points are opposing.
If privacy is utmost importance than you wonât know if they are being used for criminal activity.
If blocking criminal activity is the priority you need to sacrifice privacy to allow that scrutiny.
My weekly truck supply of makeup is off with itâs schedule, so i canât comment in this thread
P.S. HONK-HONK!!!
But seriously, i doubt anything will really change for end-user, itâs just a matter of whoâs under control of âBig Techâ at a time anyway.
Itâs a bit too late, to make & take such legislature seriously, given what we know aboutâŚstuffâŚthis days.
I live in America and Iâm all for less spying by my government
Thatâs my point! People think that privacy should just be cart blanche unfortunately it cant for this reason. But there has to be a balance and all i am saying is privacy with respect to normal activity around the use within the boundaries of what the rules are for the designated purpose should be paramount. If itâs outside of that then privacy has no place. Privacy is not a defense for the purpose of criminal deeds.
Edit: So we will always be subject to scrutiny in my opinion. Itâs the spying and using data for purposes other than this that i have a problem with.
In utopia this would be great - unfortunately the definitions of âcriminalâ get changed all too easily - and sometimes quickly. Thatâs why privacy should be the priority regardless⌠(sigh)
At the end âA gouvernmentâ outlawing there self also⌠its in liberal foundation at the end⌠its mayby not precise scientific evidence. but connecting each straw to each endâs and all are connected⌠its pretty ironic, the edge get very confusing later on.
I guess there was never a real chance to really resist this. Money rules and makes the world go round. As long as all those capitalist players deny social responsibilty and always claim falsely that everything social equals communist stuff nothing will change. Either it is a lack of education or simply greed. Most likely the second. What money and power mean to those âliberalâ western people one can easily see in Brexit. They are willing to sacrifice all virtues for selfish gain.
A wise man once said : You can fail if you fight, but if you donât fight you have already lost.
We should never give up fighting that sh**. In the early days people also expected David to loose when fighting Goliath.
Where can I read more on this?
Ah, that explains it. I havenât used a full Office suite since 2006, so I didnât know this. (I used Appleâs iWork for a long time, before switching to Linux and Open source software) I just use teams to talk with certain clients of mine, the majority of my clients use Zoom.
If thereâs a significant migration to Jitsi, Google or Microsoft will simply buy it and we are back to square one.
Not really, not in the EU. The laws are different.
Itâs FOSS, so can be forked
It seems likely that Zoom will just do what they have to do to become compliant with the new regulations rather than walk away with all their business in the EU.
For most large entities, jitsi lacks the controls they need so I donât see a large-scale migration from zoom to jitsi happening.
That implies the assumption that the founders also are greedy. I still believe that there are a few people out there who donât do things just for money. If enough companies and private people migrate to that open source stuff, there is enough money to be earned. Maybe youâll not getting paid quadrillion $, ⏠etc but still enough money to lead a comfortable life. In addition to that those people would help to rediscover/defend long gone values.
Thatâs an additional valid point.
It would replace the word need with the word want.
Itâs seen as inevitable to monitor people, especially when working in home office.
By controls I wasnât referring to the ability to monitor.
What jitsi lacks is the advanced scheduling and meeting controls.
Sorry for misinterpreting your statement.
If these features are really needed it surely is not impossible to add those. The more people use this free software, the more people might be willing to help to advance it.
What if those entities would invest some of the large license fees into the development of the software? Would be much cheaper. Not only in the long run.