Easy to legislate itâhard to actually do it. For one thing, it is difficult or impossible to separate Google and Microsoft services & software from their respective cloud services. Secondly, both of these tech giants have significant infrastructure investments in the EUâincluding data centersâblurring the line between EU and American cloud services. Finallyâthe tech giants can afford the very best EU law firms and have virtually unlimited legal budgets. If this goes to court it is not at all certain that the EU will win this fight even on their own playground. Iâm not taking sidesâI have equal contempt for Google/Microsoft spyware and big government overreach. I hope they both lose.
Unfortunately, a lot of companies donât see it that way. They are focussing on their own product, whether that product is an actual user object or a service. In order to do that they want to have a professional look by using a product they can rely on and if thereâs something wrong in that area, they can shove the blame at the provider.
The sad truth about Open Source software is that it has an image problem that is based on confusion and misconceptions by the masses.
The majority out there thinks Open Source has to do with Hackers, is unreliable because everyone can change the code and that itâs half-baked.
You and I know this is bogus, but when Zoom, Google, Facebook or any other big player out there says: Weâre sorry, but now we have changed our policies to comply with the new rules and send out an email reassuring their user-base that their storage is safe and never was compromised in the first place, people will forget about it and go on further still using their services, just because nobody wants the hassle to move things learning new systems and more importantly because those big companies have a well-oiled marketing face.
Donât get me wrong, I still think it is worth the fight and defend Open Source but without a major marketing strategy, the big adoption is still far away.
The base here is the back doors and the idea that American authorities in particular but also Chines and Russian ones are⌠logging things they shouldnât.
And the EU has very strong laws regarding personal information.
This means that according to sources today, email addresses are included in this, which means (and yes this is already being implemented or at least looked at by the actual Swedish government) it will be illegal for Goverment agencies of EU countries and Companies that handle any kind of personal information (aka virtually all of them in one way or another) to even send regular emails outside the EU. This includes to Britain.
This would for example mean that a Swedish hospital canât ask an American hospital for advice regarding a patient because the email address of the EU citizen sender will be visible.
Edit: all of this because the NSA etc demands backdoors into software and hardware, and EU has determined that means it cannot trust any kind of personal information to be used.
edit the second: Of course this does not stop regular landline phone calls, for example. In my example above a phone call would allowed. As would paper mail of course.
And I believe the main problem is not that the governments are spying. They do this all the time. And there are good reasons for doing it to fight organized crime or terrorism for example.
The main problem is that it is not transparent and the users have no rights to challenge it.
If it happens to you that you erroneously have been put on a no-fly list, you have no legal rights to challenge that. They will not disclose why they did it. And there is no legal process for you to get off that list.
You have no right as a user to ask the NSA, FBI, etc. what they have stored concerning your person. They are not obliged to give you any feedback. All these activities are happening outside of the regular legal system.
In a nutshell: Today the US has only laws which define the rights of the 3-letter agencies. What they are missing is a legal framework which defines the rights of the users.
That is the official version for average citizens. There is not one single proof that mass spying prevented a single terrorist attack.
Saw a very interesting interview with E. Snowden about that topic.
Actually, this is sort of a political matter/thread, for if the EU is outlawing something from the US, it alleges that the EU is better than the US, at least on privacy matters. Like, I mentioned earlier, some US online newspapers cannot be read in EU, as they donât comply with the EU privacy laws.
And in the interest of rational discussion it has been allowed to continue. Please remember that political discussions are against the forum rules regardless of what section they are in. Keep it civil.
As a greek, let me have a saying on the origin of the word âpoliticsâ. It derives from the word âpolis= cityâ. So, according to its greek ancient meaning, âpoliticsâ, "politiki in greek, is any (but any) issue that has to do with the public life of the city-state of that time. And it was a shame for an ancient greek citizen "politis in greekâ not to actively participate in the public life of the city.
I do stand by this definition & practice.