Curious about general consensus of DE among Endeavouros users?

[Kresimir]

@BluishHumility

Your grievance is not with Wayland, it is with KDE where Wayland is not well implemented (still). Once again, KDE is offering a feature which is still a bit rough around the edges. If I were using KDE I probably wouldn’t be in a big rush to switch either.

That might be true, yes, a lot of stuff with Wayland is broken on KDE. But I doubt all my problems with Wayland are specific to KDE.

For example, I want to have a window that is not focused be able to poll for global coordinates of the mouse cursor – an elementary and pretty common task, you would think, right? Impossible on Wayland. And I really need my Xeyes!

Or, I want to save my global clipboard history or use the clipboard to share data between applications… Or, I want one program to register key presses in another program and react to them… Wayland just makes it so difficult, if not impossible. These are elementary features that I would expect from any desktop – a lot of my daily workflow depends on them. Screen recording? Remote desktop? Such a pain on Wayland. Have a 10 pixel gap between monitors? Nope, your mouse gets locked on one screen!

Also, the performance being better on Wayland is mostly a myth. Many games work better on Xorg if I turn off compositing. On Wayland I can’t do that.

@BluishHumility

If you long for anecdotal accounts of Wayland’s superiority, how it feels faster and smoother, blah blah blah, look at my frames per second now, blah blah blah, then you will find a lot more of that in the Gnome

Sure, but ɢɴᴏᴍᴇ sucks, that’s hardly a selling point for Wayland. If I wanted to use a crappy version of MacOS, I’d use MacOS.

Sway, on the other hand, is pretty nice, I wouldn’t mind using that.

@BluishHumility

A web browser is an example of an area where most folks will be able to appreciate how Wayland is faster and smoother, particularly media playback.

When it comes to web browsers, my philosophy is that the purpose of a web browser is to display hypertext. It’s not a media player, and I do not use it as such. In fact, my browser is so hardened, it won’t play any video or audio whatsoever. If I want to watch a YouTube video, I download it and watch it in my media player of choice. The experience is much better, because the online player YouTube uses is just awful, I think the kids in the special needs class could program a better media player than the engineers at Goolag.