A random question about Linux distros

I have a lot of likes but i went from Manjaro & Antergos to EndeavourOS. This is my favorite and my only OS currently but, i do have Windows 10 also on one computer. :shushing_face:

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Same.
Because as I have said over and over: Storage space is really cheap these days which makes dual booting for games a far far simpler and practical solution than to try to get all the games I love to run in Linux. Especially since a lot of those games simply donā€™t (right now I am playing a LOT of Forza Horizon 4, and wellā€¦ you have to run it thru the Xbox app on Windows).

Ok now hereā€™s a question. Does windows overwrite bootloaders occasionally? Meaning if windows forces you to update, you may be left with a grub rescue prompt?

On the same drive, windows and Linux in a dual boot scenario, has always caused complications :upside_down_face:

How bout on separate drives?

Shouldnā€™t be a problem. Just donā€™t mix up your /dev/ā€˜s :wink:

Boot each distro from bios is easiest.

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You mean ā€œOops endeavour OS broke cuz I misusedā€ dd :joy:

Never ever ever for me.
Or rather, never ever ever since MBR was discontinued. Back in them olden days yes, Windows would write over it all the time.

It has never happened for me on a system using UEFI.
I have seen people posting about it, but I have used dual boot since May 2018 and updated automatically in Windows since then. No issues.

Thatā€™s like saying you want to go to McDonaldā€™s just because everyone else does when normally you eat at great restaurants.

Youā€™re not missing anything.

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Yes, happened to me some weeks ago, when I was updating one dual boot laptop to W10 2004. At the end of the update grub was damaged and I to repair it with a live system.
see here

Sometimes. It can happen and then the grub is gone. It has happened to me even on UEFI.

Edit: Grub is far from infallible and so is Windows Boot Manager.

Are you sure Windows didnā€™t just got put first in the boot order in BIOS?
9 out of 10 times all you have to do is just go into BIOS and set (insert Distro boot entry) as boot option #1.

Manjaro was barely stable for me. With each update something broke through no fault of mine. On EOS stability is key.

Iā€™ve found that as long as Windows can reboot itself when updating, it usually doesnā€™t mess up grub or boot order. So far Iā€™ve only lost grub once or twice in about 5 years of multi-boot. Usually, I have more trouble with Mint ocassionally resetting boot order.

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As I said unless Windows reformat the boot partition, which it really should not do nor be able to do, an UEFI entry for GRUB should be there. It is placed in a subfolder so Windows should not be able to touch it.

What it CAN do is to re-order the boot order in BIOS if your particular BIOS allows for that.

So I do find all the people having issues on UEFI machines kind of strange.

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Stranger things have happened. :sob:

No.
EOS/grub was still first in boot order but grub was not able to boot EOS any more. Windows was booting from UEFI boot menue and even from grub menue.

That is weird and should not be able to happen. Am I understanding correctly that the entry was there but it went directly to Windows anyway? No error message or anything?

Sometimes a BIOS/UEFI firmware update using a window utility will re-enable secure boot, etcā€¦

I am running dual boot for more than 10 years and had several times Windows damaging the grub menues. Back in the time with Ubuntu it was a known problem that Windows could damage grub. There were tutorials to repair that problem.
With Arch based dual boot it was the first time.