A new kid on the Firefoxā forksā block:
This one was totally new to me. It is in Alpha with the first release on 2024-07-06.
It is already in AUR. It seems to be from CachyOSā @ptr1337.
The purpose of this post is solely informative. If you wish to discuss any and all thing about this, please feel free to do so to your heart content. I would eagerly follow your comments and enjoy your point of views.
Have a Zen day!
I never fell into the rabbithole of finding the perfect browser for my day to day use, but looking at some footage it looks very elegant and pleasant to use. Having Firefox as a base is always welcoming in my book. I may give it a try on my laptop to see if it fares in the optimization department.
Looks quite nice. Actually I only use Arkenfox user.js. Letās see how arkenfox behaves with zen. Otherwise you probably have a very cool interface. Definitely worth testing. Thanks for the link
Iāve actually been using Zen Browser for about a week now. Quite nice, actually. Took me a bit of time to get used to the idea of side tab buttons instead of tabs at the top. Not sure if I like tabs on the side or not. But in general, Iām liking Zen,
Now this looks interesting. I will try it out soon.
Iām just going to zen along ā¦and use Firefox. 
@pebcak, Iāve been using the Appimage via Gear Lever. Assuming I was to get the AUR package, any idea what difference there is between the two AUR packages? Which would you suggest I use?
Why donāt you use the portable zen browser packed as ZIP?
Unpack and start, done.
Does it get integrated in the system (app menu and such)? Plus, Iād prefer to get offered updates via yay on the desktop and paru on the laptop.
They seem to provide two builds, one generic (that would be zen-browser-bin) and one specific, optimized for performance.
Seems I can use āSpecificā thenā¦
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4278U (4) @ 3.10 GHz
GPU: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller @ 1.10 GHz [Integrated]
No horizontal tabs???
Iāve been using Firefox for as long as I can remember. Some of the decisions and behaviours theyāve made, particularly with analytics and telemetry if you use Firefox sync, are pushing me to a more ādisconnectedā browser (Konqueror!? 
), but Zen looks interesting!
Linux Cast had a video on it today. Looks interesting.
Iāll give it a try at some point. I was on Floorp for a while but Iām checking in with Brave for a while.
Just tested it. No horizontal tabs. Canāt even force it in the about:config.
Someone let me know when/if this thing gets horizontal tabs. Love the way it looks, but vertical tabs are not for me, as I even force my horizontal tabs to a minimum width of 200 using browser.tabs.tabMinWidth.
Side tab buttons only, it seems.
I have a feeling that, unless an extension is created, it will never be possible. It seems to be one of the features they will use to differentiate themselves.
So the Apple methodā¦ Welp. 
Guess, Iāll continue using my hardened FF and Librewolf.
I quit Firefox and have been using Mullvad, and have been very happy. I got so sick of hardening it for years and Mozilla continuously working against that with its changes. Many days I would have a look at Settings and find all kinds of new crap enabled that they snuck by me.
librewolf I will use forever as well.
I do not miss Firefox. Mullvad is much better.
EDIT: Zen using Betterfox as a baseline is muy muy smart but only part of hardening.