So i have an XFCE install on my mini pc (Nucbox g2) and for some reason about 70% of the time i log into it now it is just painfully slow. Opening a browser takes 2 minutes switching worspaces takes about 45 seconds etc. Sometimes if i just let it sit for 10 minutes it goes away other times it doesn’t i know its not sessions i set that stupid folder to read only but to me it seems like it just isnt governing the cpu properly. I have everything set to performance mode but while it’s being slow my cpu is at 0% and my ram usage is at 900mb the only trick I’ve found is when i boot up if i go into my bios and exit then the fans spin up and it logs in like normal. I will say this problem developed after not updating for a few months because i was out of town and this install is about 2 years old so i was just curious is there a way to fix this or should i just do a fresh install? I’m a little baffled by this because on my super old am2 pc i have a mint xfce install that is from 2015 and it doesn’t do this despite not having been updated for over a decade and that’s on a hdd.
My first thought is, what if it’s not being adequately cooled, and the CPU is throttling down as a result?
Your example of entering the BIOS, “then the fans spin up and it logs in like normal” seems to suggest that when it is cooling, it is working, unless I’ve misunderstood your account there.
You might try playing with the cooling options in the BIOS and try cranking them.
NUC’s are very simple systems. For comparison, the Intel N100 (2023) in the NucBox G2 is slower than the Ryzen 3 1200 (2017).
I don’t think it’s a cooling problem the fans spin up if the cpu gets load but for some reason the OS isn’t utilizing the cpu so they are on low or off. I’ve tried giving it a bunch of tasks to make the cpu usage rise and that does nothing it still sits at 0-2% and takes forever to do anything. If the OS acts normal the cpu loads up like normal and the fans spin up like normal. Entering the bios seems to load the cpu enough and then the OS starts utilizing the cpu. I’ve had this system for 2 years and installed xfce the day i got it. It has always been snappy and fast up until about a month or so ago and i haven’t touched anything in the bios that’s why I’m curious if this install is just junk now or if there was some xfce update that messed up a setting I’m unaware of.
In the BIOS, can you override the cooling profile and crank it?
The issue I’m hoping to isolate, is a cooling one. If cooling isn’t functioning as it should, rather than the fans spinning up under load, the CPU instead throttles down to compensate for the heat generation. The result is a slow system, with quiet fans, as you’ve described.
This isn’t a cooling issue though when the cpu does get load the fans spin up like normal and when i boot the windows partition it acts normal the problem seems to be xfce just not using the cpu most of the time when i log in. This has to do with something xfce is doing when it boots it has nothing to do with the cpu or cooling system if i crank the fans the system still acts the same just has the fans at 100%.
That’s good, that’s clarifying 
Perhaps try running htop, and see what’s running, and what might be consuming resources (if anything).
Could you also please share the output of this, to give us a bit of a picture of your system:
inxi -Fxxc0z
If this is a new install, you might check to see if it is set up to index discs. That keeps the system busy for a while, until it finishes.
If you can afford (https://etcher.balena.io > ISO (4GB) > USB stick), make a LIVE USB and see, whether an updated EOS behaves the same way without touching your installed system.
Htop doesn’t show anything out of the ordinary and runing inxi -Fxxc0z outputs this
System:
Kernel: 6.18.21-1-lts arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 15.2.1
Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.2 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.52 wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM
Distro: EndeavourOS base: Arch Linux
Machine:
Type: N/A System: GMKtec product: NucBox G2 v: N/A
serial:
Mobo: GMKtec model: GMKtec serial: part-nu: G2
Firmware: UEFI vendor: American Megatrends LLC. v: ANB02_GMK
date: 10/21/2023
CPU:
Info: quad core model: Intel N100 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Alder Lake rev: 0
cache: L1: 384 KiB L2: 2 MiB L3: 6 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 3000 min/max: 700/3400 cores: 1: 3000 2: 3000 3: 3000
4: 3000 bogomips: 6452
Flags-basic: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-N \[UHD Graphics\] driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Xe
ports: active: HDMI-A-2 empty: DP-1,HDMI-A-1,HDMI-A-3 bus-ID: 00:02.0
chip-ID: 8086:46d1
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.21 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.20.0 driver:
X: loaded: modesetting alternate: fbdev,intel,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915
display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96
Monitor-1: HDMI-A-2 mapped: HDMI-2 model: ES-24X3A res: 1920x1080 hz: 100
dpi: 93 diag: 604mm (23.8")
API: EGL v: 1.5 platforms: device: 0 drv: iris device: 1 drv: swrast gbm:
drv: iris surfaceless: drv: iris x11: drv: iris inactive: wayland
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 26.0.4-arch1.1
glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel Graphics (ADL-N)
device-ID: 8086:46d1
Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo de: xfce4-display-settings
x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-N PCH High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:54c8
Device-2: Zoran Personal Media Division (Nogatech) USB Audio and HID
driver: snd-usb-audio type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1
bus-ID: 3-6:5 chip-ID: 0573:1573
API: ALSA v: k6.18.21-1-lts status: kernel-api
Server-1: sndiod v: N/A status: off
Server-2: PipeWire v: 1.6.2 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
4: pw-jack type: plugin
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 5000
bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
IF: enp1s0 state: down mac:
Device-2: Realtek RTL8852BE PCIe 802.11ax Wireless Network
driver: rtw89_8852be v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 4000
bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:b852
IF: wlan0 state: up mac:
Device-3: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 3000
bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
IF: enp3s0 state: down mac:
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 1.0
speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 3-8:7 chip-ID: 0bda:b85b
Report: btmgmt ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: down bt-service: enabled,running
rfk-block: hardware: no software: yes address: bt-v: 5.2 lmp-v: 11
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 953.87 GiB used: 150.95 GiB (15.8%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hikvision model: HS-SSD-E100N42 1024G
size: 953.87 GiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial:
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 683.27 GiB used: 150.95 GiB (22.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6
ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 296 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda7
Swap:
ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
dev: /dev/sda5
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 52.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Info:
Memory: total: 12 GiB note: est. available: 11.42 GiB
used: 1022.5 MiB (8.7%)
Processes: 196 Power: uptime: 3m wakeups: 0 Init: systemd v: 260
default: graphical
Packages: 1354 pm: pacman pkgs: 1344 pm: flatpak pkgs: 10 Compilers:
gcc: 15.2.1 Shell: Bash v: 5.3.9 running-in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.3.40
\[lexi@Alder-lake \~\]$
Install is 2 years old never heard of index discs
If you ar ereffering to how the live disc behaves it’s fine if you are saying to install another instance of xfce i don’t have room for it so if that is the case i may as well format this partition and just reinstall
If you’re testing of the Live ISO was after this issue began, and you can confirm it’s fine, that’s worth noting.
Have you tried using the non-LTS kernel, to confirm whether the issue persists there too, as it might relate to a kernel update?
This will provide an overview of your drive’s SMART health status:
sudo smartctl -x /dev/sda
It’s difficult to tell you what to look for here, as different drives will report different things, so you might share the results.
As far as i am aware it doesn’t seem to be a kernal issue. Typically i stick with LTS becuase i don’t need to be on the bleeding egde and as far as i know LTS typically tends to be more stable and have less bugs/breakages. This problem started when i was on 6.12 and i thought maybe updating to 6.18 would fix the issue but so far it hasn’t, it seems to be happening less frequently since i updated it but that could just be a placebo. I’m also not sure how to switch to the non LTS kernal and i don’t know if i would want to i think if it’s at the point where i would have to do that i may as wel just do a fresh install and see if the problem goes away. My Eandeavour i3 setup i just did on my desktop is on 6.18 and it doesn’t seem to be having issues it does take about 45 seconds to load stuff when i log in but that’s just the difference between i3 and xfce i suppose.
smartctl 7.5 2025-04-30 r5714 \[x86_64-linux-6.18.21-1-lts\] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-25, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: HS-SSD-E100N42 1024G
Serial Number: 30112151752
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000000 0000027b6
Firmware Version: HS15628
User Capacity: 1,024,209,543,168 bytes \[1.02 TB\]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate: Solid State Device
Form Factor: M.2
TRIM Command: Available, deterministic, zeroed
Device is: Not in smartctl database 7.5/5706
ATA Version is: ACS-4 (minor revision not indicated)
SATA Version is: SATA 3.2, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Wed Apr 15 04:19:47 2026 MDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
AAM feature is: Unavailable
APM feature is: Unavailable
Rd look-ahead is: Enabled
Write cache is: Enabled
DSN feature is: Unavailable
ATA Security is: Disabled, frozen \[SEC2\]
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 33) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 85) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x0031) SCT Status supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 20
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
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183 Runtime_Bad_Block PO--CK 100 100 000 - 0
184 End-to-End_Error PO-RCK 100 100 090 - 0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count -O--C- 100 100 000 - 27
194 Temperature_Celsius -O---K 025 025 000 - 25 (Min/Max 9/37)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count -O--C- 100 100 000 - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector -O--C- 100 100 000 - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 0
206 Unknown_SSD_Attribute -O--CK 200 200 000 - 2
207 Unknown_SSD_Attribute -O--CK 200 200 000 - 24
208 Unknown_SSD_Attribute -O--CK 200 200 000 - 12
231 Unknown_SSD_Attribute PO---K 100 100 005 - 0
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234 Unknown_Attribute -O--CK 100 100 000 - 3117587
241 Total_LBAs_Written -O--CK 100 100 000 - 1653
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General Purpose Log Directory Version 1
SMART Log Directory Version 1 \[multi-sector log support\]
Address Access R/W Size Description
0x00 GPL,SL R/O 1 Log Directory
0x01 SL R/O 1 Summary SMART error log
0x02 SL R/O 51 Comprehensive SMART error log
0x03 GPL R/O 64 Ext. Comprehensive SMART error log
0x04 GPL,SL R/O 8 Device Statistics log
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0x07 GPL R/O 1 Extended self-test log
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0x11 GPL R/O 1 SATA Phy Event Counters log
0x30 GPL,SL R/O 9 IDENTIFY DEVICE data log
0x80-0x9f GPL,SL R/W 16 Host vendor specific log
0xe0 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Command/Status
0xe1 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Data Transfer
SMART Extended Comprehensive Error Log Version: 1 (64 sectors)
No Errors Logged
SMART Extended Self-test Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
No self-tests have been logged. \[To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t\]
SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
SCT Status Version: 3
SCT Version (vendor specific): 1 (0x0001)
Device State: Active (0)
Current Temperature: 23 Celsius
Power Cycle Min/Max Temperature: ?/30 Celsius
Lifetime Min/Max Temperature: ?/ ? Celsius
Under/Over Temperature Limit Count: 0/0
SCT Temperature History Version: 2
Temperature Sampling Period: 1 minute
Temperature Logging Interval: 1 minute
Min/Max recommended Temperature: -127/127 Celsius
Min/Max Temperature Limit: -127/127 Celsius
Temperature History Size (Index): 478 (328)
Index Estimated Time Temperature Celsius
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SCT Error Recovery Control command not supported
Device Statistics (GP Log 0x04)
Page Offset Size Value Flags Description
0x01 ===== = = === == General Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x01 0x008 4 558 --- Lifetime Power-On Resets
0x01 0x010 4 5385 --- Power-on Hours
0x01 0x018 6 3467607373 --- Logical Sectors Written
0x01 0x020 6 40609319 --- Number of Write Commands
0x01 0x028 6 4225709780 --- Logical Sectors Read
0x01 0x030 6 38961631 --- Number of Read Commands
0x07 ===== = = === == Solid State Device Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x07 0x008 1 1 N-- Percentage Used Endurance Indicator
|||\_ C monitored condition met
||\_\_ D supports DSN
|\__\_ N normalized value
Pending Defects log (GP Log 0x0c) not supported
SATA Phy Event Counters (GP Log 0x11)
ID Size Value Description
0x0001 2 0 Command failed due to ICRC error
0x0003 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host data FIS
0x0004 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device data FIS
0x0006 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host non-data FIS
0x0007 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device non-data FIS
0x0008 2 0 Device-to-host non-data FIS retries
0x0009 4 0 Transition from drive PhyRdy to drive PhyNRdy
0x000a 4 2 Device-to-host register FISes sent due to a COMRESET
0x000f 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device data FIS, CRC
0x0010 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device data FIS, non-CRC
0x0012 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device non-data FIS, CRC
0x0013 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device non-data FIS, non-CRC
\[lexi@Alder-lake \~\]$
Re-install into a new partition.
Is it slow for a new test user?
If i am going to reinstall i may as well just reinstall on that partition no point in having two installs of xfce
Up to you, XFCE is not necessary, KDE Plasma works on N100s, too.
I’ve been thinking of testing that i will for sure give it a shot when i wake up later today. This is such a strange bug the only reason i made a post about it is because i spent days searching online and never once did i find anyone having this exact issue i saw some having a similar issue but it was tied to sessions but mine isnt set to save session or promt me for it and i set the folder to read only sincei noticed it was caching sessions anyway.
This could indicate a disc problem.
I would use memtest to be sure the ram is good or use a new/other ssd
I’m aware i don’t care for kde