Why use EndeavourOS now that Arch has an installer?

A little DDT could thin your local fly population… nah - couldn’t do it :grin: Sink your Lilypad?

Edit: wouldn’t do that either… if you don’t want to, don’t! Much nicer for everyone that way. I do wonder about sync’ing your lilypad instead, though…

Not really, just a little trial and error in a VM first, especially if you only want to install packages you will actually use.

I suppose. I don’t use the meta meta package, but there were a few of the kde-meta things where I wanted every program anyway, and just used it.

Either way, obviously many of us are miles further than where we were upon first install. That was years ago I did that. I was furious, and network manager is now one of my first packages to install because of it. I won’t make that mistake twice.

I have still have only ever used a VM like 2-3 times years ago. I’d have to read up on how to do it at this point. I’ve always had a side computer and do all of my play/learning on.

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Cannot recommend VMs enough, using something like Virtualbox is really easy, not a lot of learning involved.

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I did get a laptop with 40gb of RAM so I could do such a thing. I really need to get on this.

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By using the installer of always there is something magical to think that there will hardly be two exactly equal arch facilities.
Each one will have his priorities and will personalize his PACSTRAP.

I think everyone here is wrong :wink:

At this point you install arch so you have the obligatory arch ascii art when you run neofetch. It’s important.

Fun fact: you will get the arch ascii using paleofetch.

In all seriousness I’ve installed arch at least a dozen times and for basic guys like me there’s little utility in generating my own fstab, using fdisk, setting locale by hand, etc. Calamares is pretty mature now. With 4 computers running Linux I have EOS, arch, arcolinux, and Garuda running. They are practically identical with the exception of Garuda, which is a bit of a mess for me.

So. Pick your favorite ascii art and go with it!

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For that matter, CREATE your favourite ASCII art - using your own look. Nice selection of distros… although Garuda shouldn’t be a mess, usually - just ‘well-provisioned’… :grin:

Just to muddy the waters further, you can swap repos around according to your own usage too - for me the EnOS repo ends up on just about everything (including bare-metal Arch) to give me access to su-c_wrapper, RunInTerminal, yad-eos, pahis, reflector-simple, welcome etc…

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I tried their implementation of i3. Horrible defaults. Replaced it with my dotfiles and eventually got tired of remembering/installing all of the xfce4 stuff I had to make my bar work and left it in an incomplete state.

I no use Garuda ( no point i no game ) what i see it pre built for out of box xp. You seem like most here no want that! you want what you like ( like me ) that why we/others use Arch / EOS we make it what we want and need.

on personal note Garuda look beautiful but no for me …

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I also like Garuda but i don’t game either. I like Arch and Arch base derivatives but I favour EndeavourOS and Arch. I’m not very good at customization so i stick with what works for me and what i can handle. I wish i was better at it but i get by with a little help from my friends. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

I don’t find the Arch installer that great so i prefer to do it via my own terminal commands. I also think it is a better teacher.

“If only i was a better student”

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Right now I am back to using “plain arch” (which is actually what I have been doing for over a month now since I did a manual Arch install and then enabled the EndeavourOs theming and repo on top of it after the fact).

Since I am now using NextDNS and it does not yet support EndeavourOS I solved that issue by stripping the EndeavourOS specific packages again from my Arch install… So now I have the blue A in neofetch again ;).

POINT is that Arch based distros are dime a dozen, but I do not trust many to actually stay maintained. Especially not one-man-distros.
So basically I either run Endeavour, if I want to quickly get up and running an Arch-based system, or pure Arch-the-arch-way if not.
Garuda looks gorgeous and seems to be a very ambitious project and so does the very new distro Archcraft, but after the demise of several of my favorite distros (like SwagArch), I am wary of putting my eggs in a one-man-basket so to speak.

I loved SwagArch also it was cool.

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Actually, once installed, you don’t really need them again, for the system you have is rolling, so whether they are maintained or not is a problem. When you update, it is Arch that gets updated. Most Arch based distros are automated installers, and some install the distro you see. Best not to use distros that block your freedom. Endeavour OS certainly doesn’t do that!

I’ve installed Arch through Calam-Arch too. It just gives you more or less pure Arch, but you have to get rid of unnecessary apps afterward.

I had just looked at Reborn OS, which uses Cnchi installer, but I don’t have a free partition to try it yet. I didn’t know about the Reborn OS, until yesterday. :slight_smile:

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I found another Arch Installer using Calamares, https://sourceforge.net/projects/arch-linux-gui/
Tested it on Boxes.

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I actually tried the archinstall script a while back in a vm, it then crashed on me that being the reason why I chose to install EndeavourOS on my desktop. I tried it several times again, when I chose for a default installation the install would go fine but as soon as you try to create a custom partitioning and filesystem layout the installer will crash at some point. I actually found out that it’s easy enough to get your system to see your install as an Arch installation and not an Endeavour installation, except for no reason to do that because the EndeavourOS community is good enough reason to run EndeavourOS.

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