The baked-in Windows 10 troubleshooting assistant is worthless too. It leads in a circle with no solution. Honestly the best place to get help with Windows is on YouTube. I have found videos with solutions to almost every problem I have ever encountered.
These are like comparing oranges and applesā
Rotten apples! 
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Fortunately the EOS forum is much more forthcoming in that regard. RickLinux did help me great deal just a few days ago with a problem I would never be able to solve myself:
Even with instructions on how to use the nano editor. 
Arch forum doesnāt suffer help vampires. Users are expected to have fully researched their issue before creating a forum thread asking for help. Some long time Arch trusted users and forum mods can be a bit rude when this is not the case.
Arch team have spent tens of thousands of hours creating and maintaining the Arch Wiki, it is their primary support mechanism. Saying āI donāt understand just tell me the answerā wonāt cut it, self sufficiency being a major aspect of the Arch Way.
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thankfully not EOS way 
you can most of the time get away without doing a one hour research on your own.
Itās the power of the community: āhey lads I have this problem, rather than spending an hour to do my own research, is there anyone here who had the same issue and did his one hour research, to share his solution with me?ā Yes you can call that lazy, and one side doing the work of the other, but blatant, incorrigible help vampires tend to be called out even in the EOS community. I see reciprocity, mostly (people who get help also give back when they can) and there is also a factor of warm-inside feeling when helping others.
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I, the first time I saw a step by step of the Arch installation I found something written in Aramaic ā¦
Over time you end up losing respect and you see yourself capable of doing that installation without problems.
I always liked the idea of āāknowing what was happening behind: I appreciated the installer in Debian text mode that when they took the graph.
I appreciate seeing how the necessary files are downloaded and are installed, without errors, much more than to give it to a button and that it is downloaded in the background while you see a dial of% as an advance (or stays stopped for a while).
In that sense, it is not the installer of EOS that attracts me, since installing pure Arch is a joy for me.
They are other things, as it uses me less time your management and kindness of your community, always willing to lend a hand to those who have problems and seek solutions.
In the fund I accused the problem of being many years in Linux Mint / Lmde where everything is, basically, in graphical mode, so adapting to certain commands in the terminal takes time.
Wanting is power
I do the Arch install with the easiest, quickest way from the Terminal but i do not like install scripts. I always have issues with them working properly on my system. Doing everything myself is very easy from the terminal & fairly quick. I only install what i need and boot to a fully working plasma desktop with wifi and ethernet and all that is needed to work. Then i go from there and install what software i want. But for a lot of people they do not necessarily know what is needed, how to connect to WiFi and configure things etc. I like EndeavourOS better than any other way and i have tried them all. If not EndeavourOS it is my Arch method i use.
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And that kind of query is fine, what isnāt fine is the ātell me what to do but donāt explain it to me because Iām either not interested, ir might break my brain, or Iām too busy reinforcing stereotypes.ā Quite frankly thatās frustrating regardless of which forum youāre on. It reeks of arrogance and an inability to come down off the pedestal youāve put yourself on.
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Iāve often wondered why moderators on other forums flame help vampires in the first place? If they donāt want to help someone, why not just ignore their question? What is the upside to humiliating a noob (even a lazy one) on a help forum? Perhaps if I moderated for a few months and had to answer the same questions 50 times Iād feel differently, but I doubt it.
help vampires are not healthy for any community. they are being handled by moderators because not everyone realizes they are help vampires and can fall victim to them.
maybe searching online for a definition of the term would be useful to clarify the notion.
Iāve only seen one once or twice on this forum, so itās not that big of an issue.
I think it depends what we mean by help vampires. If we are talking about a novice who either lacks the knowledge or doesnāt want to take the time/effort to solve things for themselves that is not a help vampire to me. A help vampire is the person that is asking many, many questions on an ongoing basis and they never take the time to do any research even after they have sufficient experience to do so. Often asking the same questions every few weeks because they are too lazy to lookup the answer from the last time they asked. Those people are a drain on the community and need to be addressed.
Of course, flaming them on the forum may not be right approach.
A good point and something I wish people would do more often. 
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This is the wrong attitude. Just because someone knows how to open a command line or use a computer doesnāt make them special or superior. If a community opens itself to the public questions must be answered. Go look at the documentation is a (good) answer, superior to ignoring someone, and actually helpful whether the person asking the question likes it or not. Kinder people are always welcome to supplement such an answer.
I think you are missing the point here.
I am talking about ignoring the question if you donāt want to answer it instead of attacking them for asking the question in the first place. There are plenty of cases, especially on other forums, where people are shamed for asking a question that could be answered through documentation. The point I was making is that instead of insulting them for asking, it is better to ignore it if it bothers you.
I am not recommending people who are willing to help ignore people who need help.
Lastly, the alternative isnāt to tell someone to go read the documentation or they donāt get help. It is about letting someone else who is motivated to help, do so. For many people just starting, āgo read the documentationā is completely overwhelming. They donāt have the base knowledge to understand it yet.
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I just installed Arch XFCE using this Calam-Arch Installer in my testing partition in just few minutes. It is just a net-installer using calamares netinstall.conf and a netinstall.yaml. It gives you āpureā Arch. Had to additionally install bluez and enable it, install yay from git, and python2 (Endeavour OS has it installed.)
Just installed it myself. 
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I wonder how you intend to force me to do thatā¦
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Man I remember that time I went through an Arch install to realize I forgot to install network manager, and as soon as I went to reboot - I had no internet. And this was like my first attempt so I had no idea what a chroot was. I was so freaking pissed, and went through and did the whole process again instead.
Ah the good old days.
Help Vampires are basically trolls, intentionally or unintentionally. They are 1. a waste of time since if youāre helping them, you arenāt actually helping someone who legitimately wants the help and 2. even if something gets solved, itās very very difficult to use that solution to further help others.
MOST (not all, some accidentally end up this way because of language barriers or other things) Help Vampires in my experience fall victim into the loop of asking how to do or fix something so as they can to do or fix something else. They THINK it works one way, and by chasing the perceived answer, are actually making things worse.
Thankfully help vampires who legitimately are looking for help can be helped by being messaged and having their help consolidated into one place and finding the exact answer.
The rest turn into trolls, and thereās no helping them. Itās very easy to flame them, especially the longer youāre around. Iāve been a moderator on a couple of forums (not Linux). They seem to come in spurts and by the time it gets to āflamingā itās been like the 3rd or 7th or 10th in a short period of time. They are easy to spot after a while. This is not to be confused with a blatent internet troll who has nothing to do with their lives except annoy the hell out of other people.
Thereās a lot of toxic people in the world. Thereās just as many on the internet. The world will be better off without them, but unfortunately for the rest of us, we still have to deal with them.
I hope that helps. Cheers!
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My pacstrap has 15 packages and i can add more but this is the minimum i need for a fully functioning plasma desktop with ethernet, wifi, terminal, file browser, internet browser,bootloader & desktop manager.
I could add more or i could remove a couple but they would be required after install anyway and some will need to be installed after eventually. I donāt install any meta packages on plasma. So the only steps i need are to install, generate an fstab, arch-chroot, set the location and locale, set a hostname, create a hosts file, run mkinitcpio -P which really isnāt necessarry, set root passwd, install grub and generate a grub file, enable sddm and networkmanager, add a user & password, add user to sudoers group and give rights, exit, sync and reboot. If you have wifi only then there is a step at the beginning to set that up. Or if you have Nvidia and or Hybrid graphics then you have that also to deal with that. But Iām on Ryzen so itās a piece of cake.
No meta packages? Glutton for punishment. Thatās an awful lot of work. But good on you if you can and are willing to do all of that.
Anyway mine was more of anecdote of years past. We all learned at some point. Iāve botched everything in my Linux learning adventure.
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