I don’t see a problem with the background images myself. Well, it’s the first thing that thunders at you after a fresh installation, but everyone knows for themselves that it’s very easy to change. The logo is more of a thorn in my side. I don’t use EOS because of the logo, but DESPITE the logo. It may be a bit provocative, but I find the Manjaro logo (in contrast to the rest of this distribution) very successful. In other words, it doesn’t look so childish and playful. Unfortunately, I don’t have any graphic design skills, so I’ll make do with what I have.
Much more important to me than a logo or a background image is that EOS remains available to us all and doesn’t disappear into oblivion again at some point. I’ve been looking for alternatives from time to time recently and have come to the conclusion: There are no …
(Edit) think you say login!! you say " logo " . i remove
you get it! 
i think most forget point.
Endeavouros Dev’s give usr great start point into a Arch based distro. Usr do rest after install + if need more help there is nice helpful forum.
( wallpaper no important near all usr change 1st few minute ). i no remember who remind that , they are right at end of day .
just my opinon…
Well this is not a criticism but a annoyance
I really love EOS, not too basic Arch but not bloated like Manjaro
Standard Arch installs (EOS, Manjaro) don’t load module sg, this is needed for programs like makemkv to be able to detect the optical drive
Sure the use of optical drives is low.
@devs I fix this issue like this but is it possible to include this in EOS?
Terminal:
Note: running with sudo does not seem to work
su root
Password
echo sg > /etc/modules-load.d/sg.conf
Exit
Reboot
I couldn’t have said it better. I appreciate the minimalism of EOS. I also appreciate that I don’t have to build it myself from scratch. EOS hits the sweet spot.
That criticism for update-notifier always amaze me. I can understand it’s not necessary in rolling release distros, because there are always updates. But how can it be annoying? My eos-update-notifier.conf is configured so it shows only icon in systray that change colour when there are updates. But I guess that could be still annoying bloat for some users… 
If you want to see the user base grow to its fullest potential, then you absolutely should care. The power of branding applies even to a Linux distro, and EOS is no exception. I’m a vocal person who speaks his mind but imagine how many other users out there think the same thing as soon as they boot up but will never voice their opinion. You’re right that it is an easy fix, but that doesn’t justify leaving it as is. Objectively speaking the default wallpaper is not anywhere close to as beautiful as it can be and if it can be changed, which it can, why wouldn’t we want that? First impressions matter. That’s part of the human experience.
I look forward to see your wallpaper offer/idea . I sure power that be will consider your creation.
I don’t want a user base that is worried about a wallpaper I leave those to Windows. I want a user base that cares about FREEDOM
I don’t think those have to be mutually exclusive.
Gotta agree here. XeroLinux, Archcraft, etc. are very nice to look at, and they still give you freedom.
However…
And the site’s description does say “terminal-centric distro”, which when a Linux novice goes and looks that up, they are likely to say to themselves, “Nope. Not this one. Let me look for another Arch-based distro.”
PS: Obviously, they are unlikely to use the correct lingo (distro) but you get the point.
Agreed however we are a terminal centric distro who see’s a wallpaper from the terminal?
Depends on the user, but looking at the “Share Your Desktop” thread it seems a lot of people are interested in just that. Either way, I think common ground can be found.
I have never warmed up to the OOTB firewalld settings, they are too permissive with some ports, but I can sew that up myself. And it feels like there a dozen settings tabs so I never know…much more complicated than it should be for my simpleton brain. A firewall lighter, simpler, and more restrictive should be considered in future versions.
That’s it for constructive feedback; I adore the other 99.999999% of it.
I like not having a true GUI software center. Refreshing. As well as how the updating is done and the distro is kept up to date, and the ethos and sensbilities that are built in to endeavour. it’s an appealing distro.
I hear a lot of talk to the contrary, but this would be a great beginner linux (not arch). I mean for people going from WIN to Linux there’s going to be a learning curve. For those who don’t want one there’s Mint 
. PS—this is such a insanely good implementation of budgie that I never explored other Endeavour flavors.------just saying I think a distro’s treatment of a DE is something to consider when evaluating ‘constructive.’
short version: still not a firewalld fan for default firewall
edit: typo
That people personal preferences /choices. what one like other no like ! so that no really count on iso default wall. Can no please everyone ( best no try )
I think what he meant is that the “share your desktop” thread proves that people do care about looks.
form over function . it fine line! Function win every time for me ( that just my preference )
I have no dog in this fight, as the saying goes. If y’all are discussing wallpapers and whether or not an update notifier is annoying, then I think EndeavourOS has a very good mix of defaults as it is. 
A lot of wallpaper related post. Might I suggest?
I’d like to see a board (similar to what we see in JIRA) where we can list outstanding features or needs of EndeavourOS. This way we could work together to support the effort.
I know Bryan specifically mentioned the need:
- Get next release of EndeavourOS ISO out.
- Re-design the Discovery \ Wiki page.
If some public list is already out … then maybe we should take a page from KDE book and start organizing to support one another (Beyond the support forums(.
Auto update would be cool out of the box. I like to live dangerously. 
If it’s possible to have auto update that automatically reverts to the last working system if the update fails. That’d be something!