Extra cooler
If by that you mean just additional fan for your case:
If you have suitable case - always prefer 140 mm fan to 120 mm fan, it will be much more effective and much less noisy.
Seek the ones with higher air flow (CFM) ~54 and more - is very good.
If it’s 140mm and high CFM - seek for one with lower rpm, as it will be less noisy.
I have Noiseblocker BlackSilentPro PK-2 | 140mm, 1200rpm, 54,7CFM since 2015 - those are really good fans, i’m sure they have much better models now though
Thermal paste
Don’t cheap out, get something quality and effective i like Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut a lot (thx to @linesma), especially if you have very hot summers or some tropical type humidity - very effective one.
I have no idea about those GPUs, but if you have switch to get rid of stock overclock - definitely do that, it should help.
If you think you already have an overheating problem then running card at higher overclocked settings is probably going to be the same or worse? I’m sure the switch does the same on both models of cards. That would be my thought anyway. I’ll have to check my RX590 and see if it has this or not? Mine is a Gigabyte 8 GB card.
The manual for powercolor card RX 570. It only shows red dragon.
Additional Support (Optional)
※ If the graphics card has multiple BIOS switches,
you can switch to your personal preference.
1. Confirm that the computer is powered off and
switch the BIOS you want.
2. Reboot your PC.
(For additional support details, please refer to:
https://www.powercolor.com/ for specific model
support)
AMD Radeon Setting Software Installation
To take full advantage of the features and
capabilities of your Radeon Graphics products,
installing the most up-to-date Radeon Software is
recommended.
1. Radeon WattMan:
Take your gameplay to the next level by fine-
tuning your GPU voltage, engine clock, memory
clock, fan speed, and temperature.
2. Radeon™ ReLive:
Capture, stream and share your greatest
moments.
(For more support, visit: https://www.amd.com/
en/support/driverhelp)
※Requires downloading the "AMD Settings"
software included when installing the driver
AMD/Radeon driver.
We need to stop and go back to basics. From my many years of experience building and over-clocking machines, it sounds like there is problem with how the overall system has been put together. Why?
The CPU is running close to max thermals.
The GPU is also running close to max thermals.
Before ANYTHING can be properly troubleshot, this needs to be taken care of. Otherwise, you will just be chasing one’s tail. Without the system being properly cooled, you will not have consistent errors.
My suggestion is, take the system back to where you had the GPU and drive installed. Have them check the case for airflow. It sounds like your system is being suffocated.
The cooler and thermal paste on the GPU should be fine as long as you have proper airflow in the case.
Messing with the power limits on the GPU is not going to fix the issue. You will end up doing one of two things.
Starve the card of needed power, and performance will suffer. It will also be unstable.
Give too much power to the card and possibly damage it.
AMD Radeon cards tend to run hotter than nVidia cards. This is especially true with such a large generational change from the Nvidia 750 TI to the AMD RX 570. If memory serves, that is at least a 3 generation leap.
Once you have the cooling situation fixed, you may find that the system runs much better. If the problem still exists, then we have a “stable” base to work from.
If you have any efficient air cooling, that’s going to happen. You just have to clean your computer once or twice a year.
In fact, blowing air with a big fan into your PC with the case open will, more likely than not, blow dust out of it, not into it. If your computer is cleaner than your house, your cooling is probably crap.
Damn, you are lucky. I live right next to a rice field and there is quite a bit of construction going on in the neighborhood. Because of this, I have to clean my computer every other month. If I am encoding video or any other high CPU usage task, then it is every month.
Well, yes, depends on the how dusty your house is, obviously. Once or twice a year is a minimum, I would say, but of course, depending on your circumstances, more often than that might be necessary.
Awesome, thank you for the advice! I will keep that in mind. And yeah, summers where I live are very hot - it’s common for them to reach up to 45°C and either be extremely dry or extremely humid (there is no inbetween). Currently it’s January, so it’s the peak of Summer right now and we’re experiencing some of the absolute hottest temperatures Summer can bring.
On hindsight, that’s true. I was just worried the GPU was somehow being locked into a lower setting or otherwise being on power-saving mode and thus not getting enough power - note how I was suddenly getting 90 W most when my performance tanked yet again, but was getting up to 108 W when I was getting good performance. However, on hindsight, that might be some form of temperature throttling…
Sadly, I couldn’t find anything about the switch modes on the PowerColor website.
I had no idea there was an official AMD progam for managing Radeon cards, thank you! I will make sure to try it out when I can.
Yeah, you’re right. I’m sorry for getting carried away.
For what it’s worth, this is how I laid my computer:
I unfortunately have a relatively tiny desk that is creaky, wobbly and fragile, so not only is there not enough room to put the tower on top of the desk without leaving everything absurdly cramped, but there’s also the risk of the desk giving in to the tower’s weight and breaking. We do not have the money to buy a new desk, so I just left the tower underneath the desk - where it’s practically brushing against my legs due to the limited legroom.
Because the tower is completely smothered and covered by my legs, the wall, the surrounding desk and my chair, as well as my room getting extremely hot and regularly going over 40°C in average due to the absurdly hot summers, I guess it does make sense that my tower is getting suffocated… but there isn’t a lot I can do sadly, as there’s not enough room to put the tower on top of the desk, and the right side of the desk is already obstructed by wire cables, extensions and a power regulator as there’s only one outlet nearby, and all of them are very sensitive to being touch. (Slightly bumping them basically cuts the entire power because the cables are really old)
I’ll have to see if I can get a better way to put my tower in. The ideal would be to keep it on top of my desk so it can easily get wind from my fan without having to leave me out (seriously, having no fan is unbearable due to the searing heat), but there’s the issue of the desk being small and fragile. And, of course, relocating or messing with my tower’s positioning in any shape or form is always annoying because of the old wires being extremely finicky and cutting power to the PSU and monitor if you so much as bump into them. (Seriously, I’m definitely going to try to get new wires as well, they’re a huge pain.)
Oh, trust me, my room gets really dusty. I cleaned my room one morning, and by night it was already so filthy it looked like I hadn’t cleaned it at all. And in just a few days after cleaning it, my computer case was already once again caked in a thick layer of dirt and sand. It’s unbearable.
Sure, but if that is the case, the interior of your computer gets even more dusty, because a computer with properly working air cooling must have a good air flow and suck in a lot of air (and, unfortunately, dust with it). If you are worried about running your computer with an open case and a desk fan making your computer dusty, that’s completely missing the point. If your computer is cleaner than your room (no matter how dusty your room is), you have bad air flow (or you just cleaned your computer).
If you have a really dusty room, you just have to clean your computer more often, but the air flow in it must be good and it must suck in a lot of air, like a vacuum cleaner, regardless of dust. If your room is dusty, but your computer’s interior is not, and you haven’t opened it and cleaned it in a while, that can only mean one thing: you have bad air flow.
That does check out. Up to about two years ago (back when I still had the 750 Ti and also an FX-6300 instead of my Ryzen 5), I had a desk that was wider and sturdier, and I kept the tower on top of it, and it always got very dirty much quicker than it does now.
A properly air-cooled computer must get dirty on the inside, there is no way around that. You just have to open it and clean it periodically.
Thus, I think you should really try that fan experiment, if your problems disappear, you’ll know exactly what the issue was and how to fix it permanently. I think that’s easier than faffing around with thermal paste, when that’s possibly not the issue at all.
@SimplyTadpole The joys of having a desktop and PC gaming. I understand the temperature thing completely. I live in Thailand, and in the summer it can be brutal for my PC. However, I make sure it can breathe. If your system has a side intake fan, move it from the left side to the right side. This will free up some airflow.
Sounds very familiar. where I live in Thailand, the dust/ dirt is ever present. It is something you will have to deal with. Especially if you want to run newer components. You can minimize dust by changing the airflow and adding filters. There are three types of airflow, positive, negative, and neutral. (I may get the terms reversed because beer… sorry, but the concept is what we are looking at.)
Positive - more air coming in than going out. The best example is 3 fans blowing in and only 2 blowing out. This will give you more dust.
Negative - more air going out than going in. This is the revers of #1. 3 fans blowing out and only 2 blowing in. This reduces the amount of air that is taken into a system and less dust is sucked in.
Equal pressure - This is where you have the same amount of fans blowing in as you do out. This can have the same effect as #1. However, it is the most ideal setup when it comes to cooling.
I would add some intake filters (you can find them online) and make sure to keep them clean. This will reduce, not eliminate, the dust that gets into your system.
Also, you do not need cans of compressed air to clean out your system. Cans of air are hard to find here. After talking to people “in the scene” here, I found that they use an electric leaf blower turned down to low. (I know that one is going to cause some controversy) You can also use an OILESS air compressor. (I am a glutton for punishment!) Just make sure the system is not connected to the mains.
Also it’s best to not go against physics (if your case allows), especially in hot places, meaning hot air naturally goes from bottom to top…
So ideally intake of air should go from the bottom of case and move out through top or redirected to back / side…
I really hate cases which blow air from front to back or reversed, they usually have pockets where hot air just stalls. And in that case you can get compromise by adding fans on top and all over the place…which adds noise
P.S. I also hate heat, coz there is no escape from it…
Same here. You can always put on more clothes to be comfortable when it is cold. However, you can never take enough clothes off, and still be considered decent (or scaring people), to be comfortable when it is hot.
Right now, it is actually comfortable for me in Thailand. However, I know in about 3 months, it will be stupid hot again. So I am enjoying it while I can.
I’m sure the switch does the same on both models of cards. That would be my thought anyway. I’ll have to check my RX590 and see if it has this or not? Mine is a Gigabyte 8 GB card.
I hate the heat so much…
