Those who like the bleeding edge nature of Arch what's your opinion about Debian?

Yep, definitely over-hyped, probably due to distrowatch.

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Well there it is!

https://dur.hunterwittenborn.com/

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I loved using debian but at some point the packages and/or kernel were too old. Started running into new hardware driver issues and such. Once I tasted the forbidden fruits of bleeding edge software, found it difficult to go back to older DE or software packages.

Why do they have a link to the Arch wiki article on the AUR? Can’t they come up with their own for the Debian User Repository?

So how does the DUR work? There isn’t really any explanation other than a link to the Arch wiki AUR page.

Edit: Okay I think I found the instructions here.

Well now, that’s…interesting.

I guess it’s worth a try on MX linux to see or Debian in a vm.

I think this is fresh baked out of the oven. I heard about it on linux action news or unplugged this week. Need to catch up and check it out. But interesting nonetheless…

I found MX-Linux helpful with UEFI32 systems (and other fringe/old hardware.) They have some interesting utilities that support adding custom kernels to ā€œremasterā€ liveUSBs. MX is perhaps a little better at the nuts and bolts under the hood, but the GUI is conservative. It does feature reliable backports of recent apps and drivers, but in the end I still end up on a different disro. Other distros do the routine things with more style.

Oh wow, pretty cool :laughing:
Although…All of the software i use in AUR is lacking there :upside_down_face:

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Yes. If they don’t have anything needed then it’s not going to be much help.

Edit: I have added it to MX linux. So in Arch you use yay to get AUR packages. In Debian how does this work?

Edit2: Looks like you need an account on the DUR page?

I think the primary attraction is MXlinux ships with sysvinit active and systemd disabled. You can easily switch it to systemd but default is sysvinit

Sure, but that is sort of my point, there are many other distros that ship without systemd too. Even other debian-based distros if that is what you want.

Again, I don’t hate mx in any way. I just don’t see why it is so over-hyped. It seems more or less similar to many other distros of similar size.

That’s what I was trying to figure out. It says you need an account to use it, but to sign up for an account, you need to run it to get the challenge answer. Chicken & Egg…

I don’t really want to sign up for an account? I also don’t really see anything listed in the DUR that i would even want. :thinking:

The command to search for and install AUR packages on Debian would be ā€˜mpm’.

I’ve been playing with makedeb and mpm for a bit on Ubuntu for a bit. Personally, I’ve had mixed luck with getting things to build and install. The biggest problem I’ve run into is that a lot of AUR package versions don’t map well (or legally) to Debian package versions; the result is that the code will build the Arch package but then fail when converting it to a Debian one.

mpm? and package name? Or? Do you have to sign up for an account on the DUR?

Basically, you add a repo and install two packages, makedeb (like Arch’s makepkg) and mpm. mpm takes a few different options like:

 mpm search <package>
 mpm install <package>
 mpm update

I obviously am not doing something right as mpm isn’t found? I installed makedeb and mpm but maybe not doing it right?

Edit: To install mpm i cloned the package and cd into /mpm and makedeb?

Edit2: I did install mpm but it says’ an error happened when you try it? Do you have to be logged into the DUR page?

Funny you should ask. I just did a reinstall on my little tablet pc, mostly to finally eradicate windows from it, and, for the life of me, I couldn’t get an endeavour iso to load on it, despite the fact it was running endeavour-gnome before I wiped it. In any case, I spent the hour or two I had to spare trying to figure it out and then installed debian buster instead. I don’t hate it; once you get a few things tuned it all runs very nicely, especially with some flatpaks. It also makes good sense on that computer, since I mostly use it when I travel, which is to say in situations in which I need it to just work even if I haven’t turned it on in a month. But I can’t imagine running debian on my workhorse desktop instead of eos. I’d die of boredom.

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