Well played political answer. Overlook everything, just disagree and
It’s actually very appropriate. Except replace “mind” with “phone” “social media content” or “app” and it’s almost verbatim.
Edit: also “encrypted messages”
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Like i said a long time ago. Black & White thinking. Sometimes there’s just nothing more one can say.
Its ok. I don’t need a direct answer or at all. I was just curious about your mindset.
Yes, there’s no grey area of whom I’m interested in having freedom. It’s black and white. 100% for it, 0% without it is my goal. 50% of people living in dogma is massively too much of a grey area for me.
You were doing very well for a while.
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This is completely useless scenario for the discussion. Just made up in your fantasy and without any connection to what is being discussed here.
Nobody is taking away freedom from you. You are free to do whatever you want. That is true today and that is true tomorrow. This narrative that somebody is taking away freedom from you is nonsense.
Really? No kidding.
What interesting country are you from where less isn’t less like everywhere I’ve been to so far?
What interesting country are you from that you believe the bill in UK is taking away freedom from you? And which freedom? What can you not do anymore?
Answer a question with a question, instead of answering the question. People do these kinds of diversionary answering when they are wrong.
I’m from the USA, and I would jokingly argue if anyone on that planet knows about UK laws taking away someone’s freedom growing up in “New England” is actually hilariously accidental since I obviously wasn’t alive a couple hundred years ago hahahaha.
But seriously. Freedoms are choices. It’s been explained above, well beyond exhaustion.
Read above, you can’t possibly miss it unless you’re not trying to find it.
I do not know why my country makes any difference to this discussion. I am from Germany. But would it make a difference to you if I would be from France or from Spain or from US? Your question does not make sense to me. So I answered it with a non-sense answer.
This is is basically relating to the scientific means of “degrees of freedom” as the different choices a system has to move or behave. E.g. If a particle can move in 3 dimensions it has 3 degrees of freedom.
But that does not apply here, because your choices are not reduced. You can still make the same moves. Your degrees of freedom so to speak are still the same.
It does. I’m looking to vacation and if less isn’t less in Germany, it sounds like a cheap vacation!
Dimensions? I’m only interested in this one. Less choice would happen if this happens. It’s very simple math. It’s a normal if/then scenario. Choices would be reduced. You say they are not. Conversation is over until that basic math is understood.
IE: 2-1=1. 1<2.
As I see it, this it not going to happen only in the UK, this will soon be worldwide.
Even so when they use go for the hardware chip for that purpose.
I’m thinking here about my country and could bet that this is coming here too…
If you observe the past 5 years that the world lived, I would bet even more that this is coming here too…
There is always a chance that I could be wrong of course, but I really don’t think so.
Edit: Have you heard about Pegasus spyware ? The idea is kind of similar to what we have here, right ?
No, it’s very sophisticated targeted spyware that can infect practically any device through various channels including silently even through SIM (modem / sms).
So in case someone is a journalist or whistleblower - last thing you want is using SIM / have your connection through anything but internet…And generally speaking better stay off from smartphones.
Indeed, that is how it works, I’m speaking about the purpose of both technologies.
Governments paying to spy…
Now, with this UK law going forward, they will be able to do the same thing, but won’t need to pay third parties and will be the law…
Oh in that sense of course, i was just saying that this particular tool is used for specific targets.
What they want is to legalize mass surveillance worldwide, that all of them de-facto do to a different degree, so getting away with crimes it is.
In the introduction of the topic, 2nd link:
A clause of the bill allows Ofcom, the British telecom regulator, to serve a notice requiring tech companies to scan their users–all of them–for child abuse content.This would affect even messages and files that are end-to-end encrypted to protect user privacy. As enacted, the OSB allows the government to force companies to build technology that can scan regardless of encryption–in other words, build a backdoor.
What’s so different? Mass surveillance for a purpose that’s supposed to benefit society. I simply proposed the same thing, but with people’s most personal side. The aim is to provoke thought 
Why then is it lunar and shocking?
If we weigh up the pros and cons, is the common good more important than the privacy of our most intimate conversations?
Do you have something to hide? 
Almost look like its a freedom and a right. 
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Yes officer…MY HORN!!!11
hmmmmmmm
I see nothing here but Paranoia brought on by a lack of understanding, misinformation, disinformation, youtube and baseless claims about mass surveillance, conspiracy’s, loss of freedom and breaking encryption. It’s all just rethoric.
Do you mind to answer, what is reliable information for you ?
Not trying to get into polemics here, just trying to understand why we think so differently.