Telegram is indistinguishable from an FSB honeypot

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I have been using Telegram for years, but these news make me thinking. Is it time to change to use Signal instead? The only thing that has kept me on Telegram so far is the ability to have it on multible devices. Signal doesn’t have this feature.

If you feel using a Signal fork is safe, then there’s Molly, which I use to let me use Signal across 2 android smartphones.

Molly can scan QR from your main device and appear as a “linked device” on your account.

I have a Telegram account too, but I never use it for anything remotely important. I never trusted it, especially because its not E2EE by default, except “secret chats”, which anyways don’t sync across devices.

Molly sounds interesting. But if I’m right, it’s only for android devices. I use iphone and ipad.

Yes, molly is android only. I’m not aware of any workaround on apple devices unfortunately.

Not related to this topic but interesting blog about Telegram’s history

I have session-Desktop on my desktop, phone, my partners phone, and desktop. I’ve actually thought about dropping both Telegram and Discord cause the only thing I ever had them for was receiving tech support, but over the last couple of years I can’t be bothered with them cause feel support for a OS or app should be given some place where if the info is needed again it’s easy to find. Like a forum, GitHub, etc


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you can install stock Signal on both, and pair the install on the iPad to your iPhone. Signal has been supporting multiple devices for ages.

Yes, I know that. I actually meant multiple devices with different operation systems. I have iphone, ipad, android tablet and laptop with EOS where I have Telegram. But probably the most important feature I would miss in other messaging apps is ability to send large files. Sending videos with 100 mb size limit is impossible
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if I remember correctly, you can link up to 5 devices to an install on your phone, and out of the ones you’ve listed only the Android tablet will require Molly for now, because the stock Signal app doesn’t support linking an Android device as a secondary one just yet.

not being able to send large files is probably by design, since everything you send and receive via Signal is stored only locally, so it’s a way of making sure people don’t run out of storage too quickly.

I use Signal on my smartphone and (currently) 3 PC. Only thing was scanning a qr-code to verify.

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I have always been suspicious about Telegram. But I’m not happy that I was right about it. I don’t know if this has been reported on wider media, but this is something people really should know.

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I just use telegram for the :enos:-Channel :wink:

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That’s the endeavour channel. It’s got good stuff on there! :laughing:

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Their encryption protocol MTProto was critised by others before but no vulnerabilities found probably because Pavel Durov’s brother Nikolai Durov is a real math genius. It’s not new.

Matt Green, a cryptographer at Johns Hopkins : It’s uniquely “weird,” in a way that suggests its inventors don’t understand tried-and-true cryptography practices and raises his suspicions that it may yet have undiscovered vulnerabilities. “It’s like if everyone else in the world has agreed that we’re going to use drywall to do the walls in a house, and then you’ve got somebody who’s using toothpaste,” says Green. “Even if the toothpaste works and makes a nice wall, that’s weird. How do you know they’re not doing other weird, nonstandard things when they put the electrical wiring into the house? And that’s what scares me.”

But this FSB link part is new news.

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