Telegram is indistinguishable from an FSB honeypot

Not only keyboard even the network drivers. If a user uses a bluetooth then also the bluetooth drivers are of a concern.

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Well that was an interesting read. Thanks for the share.

Thanks. It is pretty informative for a non-cryptographic expert.

There was the case of Crypto AG, a Swiss company that was secretly purchased by some US 3 letter agency, and then compromised products were sold to all countries. It was called Operation Rubicon or something. Then there was the case of ANOM platform which was sold as a secure mobile device but was actually a FBI honey trap. It was called Operation Trojan Shield and more than 12000 of these compromised devices were sold off.
Now there are claims that Signal is a byproduct of the US Intelligence, similar to Telegram being a honeypot for Russian FSB. Given history it might be true.

Sure it does. I use signal on Linux, iphone, ipad and my MAC. All with the same signal account.

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the difference being that Signal encrypts every conversation by default without the user having to explicitly enable encryption for each chat, and they’ve taken great measures to make sure the server knows as little about the user as possible. Tor Browser has been developed by DARPA and the US Navy, but it doesn’t stop it from being recommended as the most anonymous way of browsing the web, does it?

I quit because of the amount of spam I’d get from random accounts, with no way to disable it. Signal isn’t an alternative, because no one uses it.

Except the U.S. government. We know cause the ā€œtop secretā€ chats our out there. :laughing:

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Telegram, WhatsApp all have adds. That is how they keep the lights on and the servers humming. If we want to have an Ad free experience we will need a paid solution. Are we ready to pay say 7.99 per month for a messaging app?

Then next comes the browsers. Looking at you Opera in particular.

My phone plan covers SMSs so that’s what I’ll use.

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what do you guys think about simplex? Couldn’t find many negative things about it. I like how easy it is to use without phone number and username.

I’ve been using for a bit and haven’t had any issues with it during my time using it.
There are two ways to link a new device in to a chat, you can generate a QR code to send to someone (Technically you could even print it on paper and it would work), or if QR code doesn’t work for you then you can generate a URL to send to others which can be copy pasted in to the SimpleX chat on their end. It has been very easy despite no mobile number.

I’ve done various tests between desktop and mobile phone. Images and syncing of messages when one device is offline etc didn’t have issues. Messages were pretty much instantly recieve both outside and inside house.
While chats confirm the message was delivered successfully, it doesn’t show when the message is read since this is deemed as a privacy issue as no one needs to know when you read a message as it’s similar to email read-reciepts, developer themself confirmed this.

It also accepts proxies such as Tor or VPN ones. It actually sends and recieves messages through onion routing by design.

If the message history is important to save you will need to have the database backed up as it will only exist either on your PC or your phone as there is no centralised server storing messages.
The data for this is in .config and .local of the PC (Or there is an export/import option). I have copied this over to a different PC and the chats and contacts are all preserved and worked. The database is automatically encrypted by a passphrase.

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I’m finding interesting the fact that this article completely avoided any other potentially negative aspects of Telegram and compared it into Facebook’s actions.

I have to say that headline of this article is, considering current events, well… Disgusting.