Switch from Plasma to Gnome

I’m always open-minded. I’m open-minded about any piece of software, as long as it is not proprietary. But how can I possibly manage to contact every single software developer in the world? And about things I don’t even know about. :rofl:

And if they are not, you’ve degenerated…

Sure, but there has to be a reason for breaking old habits. Those things do not come without a cost.

I prefer that than the stagnation. Unless you try you will never know.

Cliché but true: no pains no gains!

Yeah, that’s typical “argument” I get from any Wayland user:

“No idea why I use Wayland, but you should try it, no pains no gains, YOLO. It’s the future, it’s more secure (but don’t ask me how).”

I’m going to require a bit more than that, before I abandon Xorg which is tried and true, and works flawlessly, at least according to my preferences.

I am sorry, I am completely unaware of the development timeline for Xeyes or if there are any plans for it at all to become compatible with Wayland.

Xeyes is, as far as I can tell, impossible on Wayland. It illustrates one of the biggest flaws with Wayland’s “security” model. There is no amount of developing on the part of Xeyes that could fix this. It’s a problem with Wayland.

That said, there might be some inelegant workarounds allowing the creation of some sort of an abominable instance of Weyes (none that I am aware of for sure, though I have given it a lot of thought).

Don’t see that as a flaw, as I don’t use xeye.

The scaling per screen outweighs the biggest flaw on xorg to my opinion, and make Wayland better. Unless I am missing something here.

it looks like this discussion is completely missing the point. i just wanted to know what i should keep in mind when i switch from plasma to gnome. All I have to do is reinstall. that’s all. was already said in answer 2.

I think it’s very good that everyone has an opinion about Wayland or Xorg, but personally it doesn’t do anything for me.

I personally would like to use Gnome under Wayland as my daily driver.

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You probably are, since Cinnamon does scaling per screen, too. Without Wayland. Your screen tearing issue may or may not be related to this.

Discussion totally derailed and is OT, would be good to split this part into its own thread…

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This must be the security issues they mean?

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Sakaki/Sakaki's_EFI_Install_Guide/Sandboxing_the_Firefox_Browser_with_Firejail#Introduction

If it would work well on xorg I assume it should be implemented in other DE like KDE. But not that I am aware off.

This article is utter balls.

They are trying to demonstrate vulnerability with X11, and they are running a GUI program as root. :rofl:

If anything, what they are demonstrating is a feature of X11, which I certainly wouldn’t want to give up. I want my applications to be aware of each other – if I don’t want that, I sandbox them.

Who uses a GUI anyway? Just asking for it!

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A completely wrong assumption. KDE does things its own way, especially when it comes to multi-monitor setups.

In general I agree. But Wayland isn’t a new or young project, it was released in 2008!

He has some good updates on the state of KDE.

So you are saying it is possible to do differential scaling on different screens now in KDE plasma? That would be neat.

Edit: realized article is from 2021. I guess I got stuck in KDE from 2021 :rofl:

As a matter of principle, 99% of once new technologies didn’t make it into the present. Every technology was once new. Just because something is new, doesn’t mean it will stand the test of time.

And yes, Wayland is not new.

I have a simple question.

How is wayland more secure than x11?

If I use firewall, do the security advantages matter?

Also, does x11 forwarding work on wayland? Most of the time I use linux is via ssh and I use x11 forwarding to access some apps although infrequently.

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Like MIR on Ubuntu :rofl:

Mir is a computer display server and, recently, a Wayland compositor for the Linux operating system that is under development by Canonical Ltd. It was planned to replace the currently used X Window System for Ubuntu;[3][4][5] however, the plan changed and Mutter was adopted as part of GNOME Shell.

Source Wikipedia