I’ve been thinking about switching to Endeavour for a few days now because of the online install, since I’ve found installing Arch to be quite tedious and having a GUI live USB of Arch that has a web browser seems quite handy.
But EndeavourOS has always kinda appeared as sketchy to me and to some other people I’ve talked to. Like how the “close welcome screen” button was called something like “Say goodbye ” before and how there’s a Github repository called “repo” that has no description, where every commit title is a “.” (dot). And the “test-fake-stuff” repo that has “I like it :)” in the description for some reason. One of the contributors (Manuel) also always appears to use a dot to commit stuff instead of proper commit messages. And there also seem to be some packages missing from the Github organization page…?
I don’t think i’m the only one here that thinks this is all very uhh, sketchy and weird.
And i’m very much wondering what all the weird stuff is about; am I missing something?
Welcome to EndeavourOS forums and I hope you enjoy it and love it as I do.
I see EndeavourOS as a great alternative to Arch and I’m not try to convince you, because it’s just my opinion.
That’s cool, like if I was talking to a friend. I have my EndeavourOS in spanish and only says “No mostrar más” (Don’t show again).
I won’t install official packages from Github, I think pacman is the best way to get them and you can get a better package description by searching or installing:
Just the name of the repo gives me an idea that was created for testing purposes, so I wouldn’t care about it.
I only can tell you that these sketchy stuff is not relevant, of course in my humble opinion, and the best thing you can do is give EndeavourOS a try; there’s no other way to know if it’s for you or not.
I personally haven’t heard that many good things said about the archinstall script. It’s also in the “experimental” stage so i really don’t wanna trust it
It’s definitely not great and it’s very basic, but it does work. I don’t know what to not "trust"about it.
But if you don’t trust the archinstall script or Endeavour. Arch via the wiki is really your only option. That way there’s no one to blame but you.
Unless you don’t trust the people maintain the packages then you’re left with like Linux From Scratch. I think? I’ve never tried it, you may be making your own everything entirely.
I’ll try EndeavourOS i suppose,
Just wanted to ask here if i was missing something since the entire Endeavour Github repo is pretty sketchy.
Especially since the maintainers don’t even have like an introduction page as far as i’m aware.
I think Endeavour is like my ideal distro, but all of this weird Github stuff and the fact the distro isn’t that well-known makes me kinda on-edge wondering if there’s something malicious hidden in the project or something
Keep in mind, EndeavourOS isn’t a big distro backed by large corporate financing. It is small team that may occasionally like to have some fun.
That being said, the entire team is active and accessible here on the forum so if you hang out here for a while you should be able to decide for yourself if we are trustworthy or not.
It is a repo used for testing that is in no way part of the distro itself. Again, the readme is intended humorously.
I meant like an introduction to all the team members and stuff they stand for (like the Garauda Linux about page)
and yeah fair, i absolutely hate corporate-based distros.
It’s just kinda strange not knowing the people working on the operating system that you’re using i suppose; especially since everyone has a different sense of humour some stuff could look strange not knowing the people who could’ve possibly wrote it.
Glad they’re having fun working on Endeavour at least, last thing you’d want is a developer who’s tired of a project working on it for free.
Yep that’s what i meant XD (the main page thing @dalto mentioned aswell)
I think my issue there was that their website is kinda confusing to navigate.
I definitely see the entire idea behind Endeavour now tho. An Arch-based distro that has a nice community and that’s easy to install; that concept alone seems like a joke because of the nature of Arch but I’ve installed Endeavour in a VM and loved it, you all have also been quite nice this entire post.
Either way thanks to everyone who replied, I’m gonna go install EndeavourOS now!
While I personally don’t like meaningless commit messages (“Changes”, “Fixes”), the commit content and diff is also available so the information about what changed is visible and able to be inspected.
Welcome @FlooferLand
Not sure what your idea of sketchy is? EndeavourOS is the best Arch based distro i have used with a welcoming community of users from all backgrounds on the forum. We will be happy to help you on your journey if you have any questions along the way. We are a little on the purple side.
I’ve only been around about two years with EndeavourOS, but I have found people here in general quite trustworthy, and I don’t mean just the devs either.
They seem me to be what we call (in English) Straight Shooters. I’ve seen nothing even remotely ‘sketchy’.
I’m happy here and enjoy trying to contribute a bit (if only on the forums).
Nice to see that someone actually reads commit messages!
Those dots have been added automatically by the package build script.
Today I changed the build script to generate more reasonable commit messages, so no more dots there.
All in all I’d say better to try EndeavourOS than trust hear say, where ever that came from. We are developing EndeavourOS for the fun of it. All source code is available for anybody to see, comment, and be inspired.
Hopefully you’ll enjoy this journey as much as we do!
If you don’t want EndeavourOS stuff (which I could understand), you can simply remove the endeavouros repo, and you’ll be left with a nicely installed and configured Arch Linux, which you can then customise to your liking. If you do that, make sure to clean up any systemd timers and services that might still be enabled.
That’s one of the things that keeps me around. Talking to all the folks who dev/test/etc here. Everyone seems genuinely to enjoy working on, tinkering and building things here. Even if it’s not something you want specifically, people are working on stuff here they enjoy.
” before and how there’s a Github repository called “repo” that has no description, where every commit title is a “.” (dot). And the “test-fake-stuff” repo that has “I like it :)” in the description for some reason. One of the contributors (Manuel) also always appears to use a dot to commit stuff instead of proper commit messages. And there also seem to be some packages missing from the Github organization page…?
