I have an AM4 board sitting here so i’ll be getting a Ryzen 5700G for now to rebuild an older Intel quad core. It’s cheaper to do that than buy a graphics card. If you’re not a gamer i think that is the way to go. I would get Intel also with onboard graphics just because of the cost of graphics cards. The newest AMD I know will be awesome.
Price is everything in my opinion, everything is so expensive due to the problems we are all aware…
There is a possibility that AMD cuts price a little bit to get more competitive with this new Intel 12th gen
Also, AM4 with extra cache is coming
Yes… i look forward to see what they have up their sleeve.
stuff is getting out of control…
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Are you putting a mini-ITX board into a mid-tower case?
Once you learn that ‘stuff’ will expand to fill the space available, life gets easier…(some). I’ve lived in a 1 bedroom apt, and a 3+ bedroom house - and I had more spare room in the apt!
mini itx board is coming out for the X570 to go in
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My fingers are too fat, and my eyes too old to even consider that! Maybe I could supervise a kid to build a system with that!
I DO like X570 in my current system though 
this used to be easy … but yeah, suddenly my fingers are big and fumbly and I can’t see what I’m doing half the time cause my glasses keep sliding down! 
This custom build stuff might be a young person’s game
I never had a problem until my latest build - and then I even messed up adding in the RAM (I couldn’t SEE it wasn’t in right - took it out and put it in wrong again!) Not sure if I’ll try again - if this setup doesn’t see me out, of course.
This week, for the first time in my life, I ordered a custom built gaming PC.
I basically paid extra to have someone else build a PC for me. Not because I was lazy, but because I couldn’t find the GPU any other way after 6 months of trying.(Technically, I could have bought one from a scalper but I make a practice of not doing that).
That being said, I have a built a lot of PCs over the years. While I don’t hate building PCs myself, it stopped being enjoyable long ago. I am curious to see how this build comes out. I wouldn’t normally do it this way because it is definitely more expensive but I am looking forward to getting a PC and being able to use it right away.
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Says AI… 
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just got it up and running … only ran into one small snag … 4x16GB sticks of memory … one is bad after about 2 minutes of run time - followed by a long game of ‘process of elimination’ - now we’ll see how helpful my retailer is?
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That sucks…glad you found it quickly though.
I wonder why? I see a beverage in the middle. 
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Yes… The mini ITX gets the boot!
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Please tell us what you got?
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The mini-ITX got the boot and I retired the ASUS C60M1-i apu/mb combo. (anybody looking for a cheap, low power board for a light duty home file server?) …
I went with my original list of new parts/pieces…
ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Pro ATX
Ryzen 7 5700G APU
G.Skill 64GB PC-3600 CL16 memory
AOC 34" LED Monitor CU34G2X
… and I recycled a bunch of stuff from some existing servers:
Crucial 256G SSD (my system drive)
2x 2TB Seagate NAS drives
4x 3TB Seagate RED NAS drives
I just got it all put together, so no real read yet … of course it seems great at the moment given that I skipped a few generations of CPU/GPU
… and that beverage was entirely critical to the process … I needed some sighting fluid to help me line up all of the little parts 
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I have 32 GB of memory on both my systems. I did want 64 but settled on 32. Next time maybe. I have an X570 board but its an MSI paired with the 3800X and AMD RX 590. Interested in the 5700G how it works. I’m sure it will be awesome.
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16gb is enough for me
Sometimes when I use handbrake or qbittorrent I get a few MB swap usage, but it is very rare
Edit: Maximum tabs in the browser is around 25 tabs…
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