Pamac and the AUR

No, it is not. A program with a function that could be abused to stop services for everybody should not be available. This is clearly a developer issue.

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I can see that side of things. At the same time I think it was probably well-intended.

He is a pretty level-headed guy so I expect it was intended to help rather than to accuse.

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You have no idea. Hahahaha

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one of my favorite responses in the manjaro thread

“This should be a great solution rather than the current status quo where other distros are sharing using pamac & getting the whole thing blocked by upstream.”

Sure…Its other distros not Pamac at all :upside_down_face:

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There are those that think the worst thing about Manjaro is that they seem to give GREEN a bad name…

( :frog: )

undeserved!

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I dont believe that was the intent, but thats how it sounds unfortunately.

This isnt something that should be put on the users to solve though imo, Pamac is doing something it shouldnt and thats not on the users.

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It’s one thing to have a broken package on the AUR.
It’s another thing to have a package break the AUR.
How any of that is a users fault is just silly. I think that message is more of a warning to be careful how you use pamac in it’s current state to keep the upstream dev’s from totally losing their sh!@.

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This.
Imho Frede just wanted to educate people.
(of course this looks somewhat odd; It’s not that he wants to blame the users though)

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Thats why pkgbrowser so good to browse only aur lol

I turned off the default AUR update check in Pamac.

Hope it will help the situation…

Just enter yay -Qua into a terminal whenever you want to know…

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What exactly does yay -Qua?

Queries updates from aur

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Is not that update check is the issue. Is just when you search something on each keystroke it gona look intoo the aur…that garbage lol what wrong with enter lol

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thanks for the info…

but welcome app’s update script checks AUR’s updates anyway

There’s a LOT of ways of checking (having a notifier, having conky scroll a list of pending updates, using the bash functions (upls and upcnt - see thread on functions) to list pending updates or update counts, running term commands such as yay -Qua or checkupdatesext for info on demand…

Take your pick - its YOUR machine and your workflow!

Just running yay by itself updates the world as it is. It’s just whether you want to know what’s coming first :grin:

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It was so this guy. :point_up_2:

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I just read the whole thread over there and it looks like there are just 2 or 3 ppl even aware that the problem seems to be the auto suggestion. Most just talk about about update checks.

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Yes, indeed. I was tempted to add a comment to that thread. But since I moved away from Manjaro I did not make any contributions to the forum anymore. Thats why I am hesitant to post something.

But the message for me is clear:
The whole world is looking at the Manjaro Devs. They have a killer feature in pamac which is basically a denial of service button for the AUR. But instead of discussing how to change the app, they ask the users to not abuse the search function in pamac. This is absurd.

And to your point: most of the users in the thread do not even understand the problem but think it has to to with the pamac update command. Not to mention the 90 % of Manjaro users who do not even read the Manjaro forum.

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And so life continues in the Democratic Republic of North Manjaro.

And yet consistent with historical behavior, attitudes and general incompetence … must protect the “brand” and throw those pesky users under the bus. Blind leading the blind, unfortunately.

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