Mesa caution to All users EDIT: New Mesa update is out---everyone affected try with caution & post if it is sucessful

ExDebianuser · May 22, 2025, 2:52pm

A BIG Thank You for everyone that posted…it “looks” like hybrid nVidia/Intel systems need to be cautious in upgrading, as well as some Alderlake/Tigerlake/Coffeelake Intel systems…AMD is not affected. Also, it “looks” like mostly Gnome & KDE are affected.

NOTE: New update today…try with caution.

It is looking like the new Mesa update is causing problems mostly with nVidia systems…refer to:

So far there have been reports with nVidia systems (including hybrid systems) & Tigerlake Intel being affected. I would recommend upgrading with caution. So far, Gnome & KDE have been affected.

Asking everyone to post:

lspci | grep 'VGA'

or

inxi -G

Or both. Thank You!

Schlaefer · May 22, 2025, 3:24pm

To cite: nvidia should give two f’s about mesa?

This all seems so far like a limited, circular posting of Arch and EOS forum links without anybody providing actual logs or hardware specs?

ExDebianuser · May 22, 2025, 3:26pm

That is why I’ve asked people to post specs…we need more information. I was the cross-poster to get the information out there.

Schlaefer · May 22, 2025, 3:29pm

Mesa warning to All users is a strong statement though.

If you say in the crosspost that TigerLake and hybrid systems are affected too, it would be cool to have a link to those reports.

ExDebianuser · May 22, 2025, 3:32pm

Yes…it’s a bit strong, but in view of what has been seen so far…I believe warranted…I’ll reword it a bit. I referred to hybrid & Tigerlake in the Arch forums posting… I’ll provide more info at the top post here.

milkytwix · May 22, 2025, 4:06pm

I say what I say since years: Throw away the leatherjacket garbage, go red.

UncleSpellbinder · May 22, 2025, 4:52pm

I thought this mesa issue was Gnome-specific?

ExDebianuser · May 22, 2025, 4:55pm

Not as far as I’ve found…there is 1 KDE report…we need more info…

UncleSpellbinder · May 22, 2025, 4:57pm

❯ pacman -Qs mesa
local/glu 9.0.3-2
    Mesa OpenGL utility library
local/lib32-glu 9.0.3-2
    Mesa OpenGL utility library (32 bits)
local/lib32-mesa 1:25.1.1-1
    Open-source OpenGL drivers - 32-bit
local/mesa 1:25.1.1-1
    Open-source OpenGL drivers
local/mesa-utils 9.0.0-5
    Essential Mesa utilities
❯

❯ lspci | grep 'VGA'
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GA104 [GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Lite Hash Rate] (rev a1)
❯

❯ inxi -G
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GA104 [GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Lite Hash Rate] driver: nvidia
    v: 570.144
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
    compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: nvidia unloaded: modesetting
    gpu: nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch resolution: 1920x1080~100Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: nouveau,nvidia,swrast
    platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: nvidia mesa v: 570.144
    renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
  API: Vulkan v: 1.4.313 drivers: nvidia surfaces: N/A
  Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo
    de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor gpu: nvidia-settings,nvidia-smi
    wl: wayland-info x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
❯

I haven’t had any issues.

ExDebianuser · May 22, 2025, 4:57pm

Thank You!!!

kagetora13 · May 22, 2025, 4:59pm

No issues so far:

❯ pacman -Qs mesa
local/glu 9.0.3-2
    Mesa OpenGL utility library
local/lib32-glu 9.0.3-2
    Mesa OpenGL utility library (32 bits)
local/lib32-mesa 1:25.1.1-1
    Open-source OpenGL drivers - 32-bit
local/mesa 1:25.1.1-1
    Open-source OpenGL drivers
local/mesa-utils 9.0.0-5
    Essential Mesa utilities

~
❯ lspci | grep 'VGA'
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 5500 (rev 09)

~
❯ inxi -G
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 driver: i915 v: kernel
  Device-2: Chicony Integrated Camera driver: uvcvideo type: USB
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
    compositor: gnome-shell v: 48.1 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 resolution: 1920x1200~60Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: iris,swrast
    platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 25.1.1-arch1.1
    renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 5500 (BDW GT2)
  Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo x11: xprop,xrandr

swh · May 22, 2025, 5:03pm

No issues on AMD CPU/GPU on KDE Plasma

╭ ~                                                                                                                                                                         
╰─❯  pacman -Qs mesa
local/glu 9.0.3-2
    Mesa OpenGL utility library
local/lib32-vulkan-mesa-layers 1:25.1.1-1
    Mesa's Vulkan layers - 32-bit
local/mesa 1:25.1.1-1
    Open-source OpenGL drivers
local/mesa-utils 9.0.0-6
    Essential Mesa utilities
local/vulkan-mesa-layers 1:25.1.1-1
    Mesa's Vulkan layers

╭ ~                                                                                                                                                                            
╰─❯  lspci | grep 'VGA'
03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 23 [Radeon RX 6600/6600 XT/6600M] (rev c7)

╭ ~                                                                                                                                                                             
╰─❯  inxi -G    
Graphics:
  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Navi 23 [Radeon RX 6600/6600
    XT/6600M] driver: amdgpu v: kernel
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
    compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: modesetting,radeon dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution:
    1: 1920x1080~144Hz 2: 1920x1080~60Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: radeonsi,swrast,zink
    platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 25.1.1-arch1.1
    renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6600 (radeonsi navi23 LLVM 19.1.7 DRM 3.61
    6.14.6-arch1-1)
  API: Vulkan v: 1.4.313 drivers: radv surfaces: N/A
  Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo
    de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor gpu: corectrl wl: wayland-info
    x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr

╭ ~                                                                                                                                                                            19:02 swh   on EndeavourOS   525ms
╰─❯

UncleSpellbinder · May 22, 2025, 5:13pm

@ExDebianuser, I also posted on the Arch thread you posted.

3nd · May 22, 2025, 5:54pm

not sure what the hell this about lol , but anyway , here’s mine .
anything to help

[jp@jp14 ~]$ pacman -Qs mesa
local/glu 9.0.3-2
Mesa OpenGL utility library
local/mesa 1:25.0.5-1
Open-source OpenGL drivers
local/mesa-utils 9.0.0-5
Essential Mesa utilities
[jp@jp14 ~]$ lspci | grep ‘VGA’
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[jp@jp14 ~]$ inxi -G
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
Device-2: Z-Star Micro Webcam driver: uvcvideo type: USB
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.16 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
dri: crocus gpu: i915 resolution: 1: 1366x768~60Hz 2: 1366x768~60Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: crocus,swrast
platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.5 compat-v: 2.1 vendor: intel mesa v: 25.0.5-arch1.1
renderer: Mesa Mobile Intel GM45 Express (CTG)
Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo de: xfce4-display-settings
x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
[jp@jp14 ~]$

EOS · May 22, 2025, 6:07pm

Old version. Version that may cause problems is mesa 1:25.1.1-1

Locutus · May 22, 2025, 6:12pm

I knew we got off too easy with the last MESA update. I had braced for disaster and all went fine.

~  lspci | grep 'VGA'                                                                                 ✔  11:13:10 AM 
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GA106 [GeForce RTX 3060 Lite Hash Rate] (rev a1)
17:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Raphael (rev c3)
 ~  inxi -G                                                                                            ✔  11:13:14 AM 
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GA106 [GeForce RTX 3060 Lite Hash Rate] driver: nvidia
    v: 570.144
  Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Raphael driver: amdgpu
    v: kernel
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
    compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: modesetting,nvidia dri: radeonsi
    gpu: nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch resolution: 3840x2160~60Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: nouveau,nvidia,radeonsi,swrast
    platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: nvidia mesa v: 570.144
    renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060/PCIe/SSE2
  API: Vulkan v: 1.4.313 drivers: nvidia surfaces: N/A
  Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo
    de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor gpu: nvidia-settings,nvidia-smi
    wl: wayland-info x11: xdriinfo, xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr

Biotico1974 · May 22, 2025, 6:48pm

No issues on this end.

~  pacman -Qs mesa
                                                                                          
local/glu 9.0.3-2
    Mesa OpenGL utility library
local/lib32-mesa 1:25.1.1-1
    Open-source OpenGL drivers - 32-bit
local/mesa 1:25.1.1-1
    Open-source OpenGL drivers
local/mesa-utils 9.0.0-6
    Essential Mesa utilities

~  lspci | grep 'VGA' 
                                                                                 
03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 33 [Radeon RX 7600/7600 XT/7600M XT/7600S/7700S / PRO W7600] (rev cf)

~  inxi -G                                                                                                  

Graphics:
  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Navi 33 [Radeon RX 7600/7600
    XT/7600M XT/7600S/7700S / PRO W7600] driver: amdgpu v: kernel
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
    compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: modesetting,radeon dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution:
    1: 2560x1440~165Hz 2: 1920x1080~75Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: radeonsi,swrast,zink
    platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 25.1.1-arch1.1
    renderer: AMD Radeon RX 7600 (radeonsi navi33 LLVM 19.1.7 DRM 3.61
    6.14.6-arch1-1)
  API: Vulkan v: 1.4.313 drivers: radv surfaces: N/A
  Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo
    de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor gpu: amdgpu_top, lact, radeontop
    wl: wayland-info x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr

Cphusion · May 22, 2025, 6:57pm

No issues here with Hyprland and an Nvidia gpu, using uwsm to login.

Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GB203 [GeForce RTX 5080] driver: nvidia v: 570.144
  Device-2: Logitech C920 PRO HD Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
    type: USB
  Display: wayland server: Xwayland v: 24.1.6 compositor: Hyprland v: 0.49.0
    driver: gpu: nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch resolution: 1: 3840x2160~144Hz
    2: 2560x1440~144Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: nouveau,nvidia,swrast
    platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: nvidia mesa v: 570.144
    renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080/PCIe/SSE2
  Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo gpu: nvidia-smi x11: xprop,xrandr

extra/glu 9.0.3-2 [installed]
extra/mesa 1:25.1.1-1 [installed]
extra/mesa-utils 9.0.0-6 [installed]
multilib/lib32-glu 9.0.3-2 [installed]
multilib/lib32-mesa 1:25.1.1-1 [installed]
extra/libva-nvidia-driver 0.0.13-1 [installed]
extra/nvidia-open-dkms 570.153.02-1 [installed]
extra/nvidia-utils 570.153.02-1 [installed]
multilib/lib32-nvidia-utils 570.153.02-1 [installed]

Dinomonster · May 22, 2025, 7:12pm

@ExDebianuser, here’s my results of lspci | grep 'VGA':

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation AD107M [GeForce RTX 4060 Max-Q / Mobile] (rev a1)
65:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Phoenix1 (rev c1)

And inxi -G:

Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA AD107M [GeForce RTX 4060 Max-Q / Mobile] driver: nvidia
    v: 570.144
  Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Phoenix1 driver: amdgpu
    v: kernel
  Device-3: Sonix USB2.0 FHD UVC WebCam driver: uvcvideo type: USB
  Display: wayland server: X.Org v: 24.1.6 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
    compositor: gnome-shell v: 48.1 driver: gpu: amdgpu
    resolution: 2560x1600~165Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: kms_swrast,nouveau,nvidia,radeonsi,swrast
    platforms: gbm,wayland,x11,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 25.1.1-arch1.1
    renderer: AMD Radeon 780M (radeonsi phoenix LLVM 19.1.7 DRM 3.61
    6.14.6-arch1-1)
  Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo gpu: nvidia-settings,nvidia-smi
    x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr

I’m on Gnome and have had no issues.

Edit. Included pacman -Qi mesa:

Name            : mesa
Version         : 1:25.1.1-1
Description     : Open-source OpenGL drivers
Architecture    : x86_64
URL             : https://www.mesa3d.org/
Licenses        : MIT AND BSD-3-Clause AND SGI-B-2.0
Groups          : None
Provides        : libva-mesa-driver=1:25.1.1-1  mesa-libgl=1:25.1.1-1  mesa-vdpau=1:25.1.1-1  libva-driver  opengl-driver  vdpau-driver
Depends On      : expat  gcc-libs  glibc  libdrm  libelf  libglvnd  libx11  libxcb  libxext  libxshmfence  libxxf86vm  llvm-libs  lm_sensors  spirv-tools
                  wayland  zlib  zstd
Optional Deps   : opengl-man-pages: for the OpenGL API man pages
Required By     : egl-gbm  egl-x11  gst-plugins-bad-libs  gst-plugins-base-libs  lib32-mesa  libglvnd  mutter  qt5-base  qt6-base  rog-control-center
                  webkit2gtk-4.1  webkitgtk-6.0  xf86-video-amdgpu  xf86-video-ati  xorg-xwayland
Optional For    : libva  libvdpau
Conflicts With  : libva-mesa-driver<1:24.2.7-1  mesa-libgl<17.0.1-2  mesa-vdpau<1:24.2.7-1
Replaces        : libva-mesa-driver<1:24.2.7-1  mesa-libgl<17.0.1-2  mesa-vdpau<1:24.2.7-1
Installed Size  : 40.74 MiB
Packager        : Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) <heftig@archlinux.org>
Build Date      : Wed 21 May 2025 12:40:03 PM EEST
Install Date    : Thu 22 May 2025 10:00:50 PM EEST
Install Reason  : Installed as a dependency for another package
Install Script  : No
Validated By    : Signature

chriscomputing · May 22, 2025, 7:50pm

I created a new QEMU VM with Endeavour today and it wouldn’t show the login manager after boot. Same as user Cthulhu82 on the Arch forums described. Probably related?

Not sure what specs you need for a VM, host is all AMD, no hybrid graphics.