KDE Plasma 6 is out in full! (and now on EOS! Yay! )

Then you’ll have more problems. :laughing:

isn’t this the same argument that was advanced eons ago when Hurd was announced - a microservice based Linux kernel, and there have been many iterations since, and none of them have had any mass adoption or completion compared to monolithic kernel?

of course in reality the kernel itself is also modular, it just doesn’t have multiple independent binaries in a different process space the way a true microservice architecture would work

I absolutely agree Wayland is the future, but why has it taken so long and why are there so many incompatibilities still?

I somehow predict X11 is not even close to dying out or even deprecated.

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My guesses is:
in fighting, hard, not enough standards, the usual open source problems.

And yes X11 is dying! No one maintains it anymore.
devs went to create Wayland.

Latest updates coming in 6.0.3

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I find it time-wasting to use rough-and-ready DE’s until they get released within some of mainstream distributions.Trying to suss out what could cause any significant problems is exhausting.

Yes I have i3-wm as a backup on my system as a just in case. I’ve slowly been teaching myself a bit about it. I haven’t had any significant problems so far, but I have had a few minor inconveniences but they seem to be related more to Wayland as I don’t get them on X11.

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Yes, we all should have something to fall back on. I’m trying to get used to Gnome :smiling_face:

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Be careful, you may not want to use anything else later :wink:

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I’ve actually been eyeing of GNOME again, I just was never able to get myself to like it but I didn’t really give it much of a chance either.

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I guess GNOME is just one of those things that if you don’t like it to begin with, you may find it a bit difficult to do later as well. Don’t know. Personally, I just wanted to give it a try when 40 was released and then here I am. Unable to use anything else. GNOME has crippled my DE hopping :sweat_smile:

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KDE did it for me, ever since I tried it I haven’t found anything else that suites me. I think to make GNOME likeable for me I’d have to add a few extensions and I was having trouble with these the last time I tried it.

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Greed “Manjaro” used to be the bad word, now it’s “Wayland” …

I was in exactly the same boat.
I did force myself to give GNOME a fair try (using it for ~5 months now, on Fedora 39), the aesthetics of its simplicity is very nice, but the functional aspect of the same simplicity gets way too much in my way for my liking…
Would not recommend you do the same given your comments.

Now I plan on moving back to KDE, at least until COSMIC lands its initial release so that I can give that a try in hopes of it being a middle-ground.

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Yes this looks like it could be interesting to try out, I quite liked it when I first used PopOS but in the end it was pretty much GNOME with extensions once it becomes it’s own thing it will be interesting to see just where it goes too.

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Maybe. At least I’m going to remain on GNOME until Plasma is updated to the first major point release.

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KDE has been fine with Wayland for me and Plasma 6 actually fixes a lot of long-standing bugs I’ve had with 5, but there are a few applications that don’t play nicely with it. VMware is one (clipboard link is broken on Wayland), and unfortunately it’s the best out of the virtualisation bunch for Windows guests (better shared folders + convenience/no need for GPU passthrough).

all seems fine here on wayland except emojis dont show up in notifications, they just look like little squares. anyone else have that problem?

X11 is dying out, but it will be a slow and long drawn-out death. As Wayland bugs get fixed and needed features and protocols are implemented, this transition will progress over time. By next year, maybe 15-25% of all Linux desktops will be running X11. For what it’s worth, Nick from The Linux Experiment was quite impressed by Linux Mint’s experimental release of Wayland on Mint Cinnamon - this is relevant, as Mint is quite popular. XFCE is also catching up on Wayland development. Plus, Ubuntu 24.04 LTS is coming out (with GNOME 46?), and Wayland will be reasonably well-implemented, I presume. wl-roots development and implementation will also be key in many cases.

Think of X11’s decline in terms of exponential decay - its use will drop dramatically, but it won’t be completely phased out until maybe 2027 at the earliest (in my estimation) - until then, it’ll be in maintenance mode, and security patches will (or at least, ought to be) applied as necessary.

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Is anyone having weird issues like the start menu showing up far above the correct location or application windows go beneath the task bar when the windows are maximised, etc on Wayland?