Is Endeavour OS for me?

How can I help give my post more clarity? When you say, “preferences,” what do you mean by that? Do you mean choice of DE+WM and how I want xorg.conf to look like? Or do you mean whether LibreOffice comes pre-installed? I can install that myself.

I think I could get what I want with Endeavour. Arch distro + KDE + Steam + Zen Kernel/AMDVLK-Git = sit down and play video games. Is that correct?

Like, is that all there is to it? Is it as easy or simple as I want it to be? Or is there more to configure than beyond that?

Whatever forum software you guys are using, I just wanted to say that it kicks ass! Kudos to the person(s) who chose it or built it for your distro.

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If that is what you want than, yes, that should be pretty easy to do. Use the online installer to install kde/plasma and then do:

yay -Syu linux-zen linux-zen-headers steam amdvlk-git

There usually is more to configure but you will find those things as you go along.

I would just try it and see how it goes.

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Welcome :slight_smile:
Try it, only you can tell if it’s for you, i think it’s best platform for gaming

Should be simple enough, pretty much what @dalto said!

Keep in mind, that not all suggestions or guides on Linux gaming are equally safe / sane, for example personally i wouldn’t go with anything from AUR -git as it will sure as hell break one day and you may get frustrated…

But hey, it’s your choice and you can go full cutting edge mode and switch back to something else later if having a problem :slight_smile:

And also if you have problems ask help in gaming section or performance / tools / tips suggestion in Linux gaming guide

and you may find that Screen space Ray Tracing for any game interesting as well :cowboy_hat_face:

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Short answer: No!

Longer answer: My own benchmarks show very little performance differences between the various kernels. If only one job/application is running the performance difference I found are within 1-2 %.

There is more difference between the various kernels if background jobs are taking away CPU time from the foreground job. In that case the kernels with alternative CPU schedulers have an advantage. In my benchmarks the best in this area is xanmod kernel with cacULE scheduler. But the difference to the other kernels with bmq, pds or what-not-scheduler is not big.

You could also try the kernel coming with Garuda Linux. I tested the gardu linux-tkg-bmq kernel which is not bad.

But I am not a big gamer. So I am back to linux-zen which has the vanilla CPU scheduler (CFS). I picked the linux-zen kernel as my primary not for performance reasons but for the addtl. bug fix and fucntionality patches.

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Well, main benefit of zen for gamers is not shcedulers or other stuff per-se, but Fsync patch (you need to have Wine with Fsync support, like TKG as well to enable it in Lutris or Steam proton)

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If you really have a good high end system, windows will be the best for your gaming needs no doubt about that.

If you have a mediocre system or low end old system, there’s only so much you can squeeze out from it.

All those “gaming performance distro” is all just to let gamer fanboy fantasize about the “myth” of whatever kernel or softwares that people claim to be using.

Because in the end of the day you just have to ask yourself a question what is your ultimate goal now.
Do you want to waste all your time researching and looking for all these “mythical” believes or you can start playing right away in windows?

It is your call.

Nonsense. I have zero problems gaming on linux. Since I also use AMD hardware the performance is often better then it was on windowz then again it has been three years since I used windows…

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I like the liquorix kernel and others can debate the value of custom kernels, I can see the difference over mainline and zen and so i use that.

yay -S linux-lqx linux-lqx-headers linux-lqx-docs

easy peasy to install and uninstall if you dont like it. The newer your rig the better performance boost you will get.

Do this in a manjaro terminal and show us your specs?

sudo inxi -Fxzmc0 

you will need dmidecode for sure for the full report aand maybe something else

sudo pacman -S dmidecode
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Welcome. EndeavourOS, just like vanilla Arch is probably the best non-windoze platform for gaming (with the possible exception of Gentoo, configured by someone knowledgeable). Just don’t expect everything to work out of the box. If you have a technical mindset, and you are willing to invest time and effort into learning things, and are not easily frustrated when things do not work, but rather see it as an interesting puzzle to solve, then Arch, as well as EndeavourOS, is most certainly for you.

If you want a well preconfigured system for gaming, look at Garuda Linux.

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Dammit, I was just about to suggest that as an option… :grin:

It’s not to everyone’s taste, but it’s definitely worth trying.

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I know you think Steam is malware but for the sake of the OP…
Whether it be on arch or EndeavourOS the only three packages I have to add to get things working are:

  1. steam (NOT steam-native-runtime)
  2. vulkan-radeon
  3. lib32-vulkan-radeon
    #2 and 3 will be prompted by the steam package itself as options.
    After that enable proton and go!
    Every once in a while with a newer title you might need to install a glorious eggroll version of proton until the steam proton version catches up but that takes all of three minutes. The only thing you won’t be able to play (easily) are online multiplayer FPS’s like call of duty as the anti cheat software bugs on linux.
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Yeah, one can say whatever about Steam, but it cannot be denied that Steam is comfortable and easy to use. But if comfort and ease of use is one’s priority, one may as well use windoze.

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Like I said, its totally on how you look and compare. I shall just keep quiet and continue watching you guys discuss :wink:

I would say that the zen kernel doesn’t add that much, for me at least on my all amd build.

I found that my video encoding took slightly longer on the zen kernel than the standard kernel. And I could not multitask as well on the zen, like doing an encode and also watch YouTube or browse reddit, the whole system was stuttering but that doesn’t happen on the standard kernel.

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I don’t have those issues using the zen kernel,. Your issues when encoding, watching videos, all sounds like a graphic’s card thing, maybe driver issue, not sure.

I’m using CPU encoding not GPU, and am using mesa drivers.

Not that it couldn’t still be a setup issue, I just know that the standard kernel worked better for me than zen. I also use BTRFS, so it could be that not playing well with zen with the very high CPU load.

Gaming rig not with me at the moment; it’s in my local computer store (support small business!) where I ordered it from.

But it’s an:

  • Aorus gaming motherboard
  • AMD Ryzen 7-3800X (Zen 3 is getting SCALPED)
  • AMD RX 580 (hoping to upgrade to 5700XT)
  • 16 GB DDR4 3200 RAM (doesn’t Arch have an increased RAM caching thingy?)
  • M.2 SSD for /boot and /
  • 2TB FireCuda SSHD for /home

Dar said:
All those “gaming performance distro” is all just to let gamer fanboy fantasize about the “myth” of whatever kernel or softwares that people claim to be using.

I think I am of the same mindset as Elloquin that I am very optimistic about gaming on Linux.

I think the “gaming distros” are distasteful as they are merely gaming bundles in my eyes. I can bundle the games myself! My quest is to find a “gaming distro” that focuses on system performance and can prove their tweaks/changes improve my games’ performance over other Linux distros. But I think Dar brings up an interesting point: Fact or Fiction? Am I really chasing some wild unicorn when I’m hunting online forums and web articles for “gaming performance tweaks”? Is there real-world evidence that Package A makes gaming better than Package B? For all my new packages that I could install or changes to config files I could make, is it real? Are there real performance benefits to be had? What are your experiences?

I disagree with Dar and believe Linux has ascended. By no means to the top, mind you, but far greater and better than it was back in 2013! You had TF2 and Dota 2. That was it.

Dar said:
If you really have a good high end system, windows will be the best for your gaming needs no doubt about that.

I agree and disagree. I agree that Windows will give you the biggest gaming library. I have 150-200+ titles on my Steam account. However, I don’t have quite as much time for games these days, but the games that I do want to play are available or playable on Linux.

I just wanted to say: because of your timely responses and your friendly comments, I will remember this interaction with the Endeavour Community. I will definitely recommend Endeavour OS to the Arch-curious just because of how fantastic you guys were to me. Thank you!

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*cough* Garuda *cough*

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My advice would be : Keep on using Windows. Games are primarily designed for use with Windows.

and the (inevitable) problems you don’t want.

Not useful according to the title of the thread but my honest opinion. I often experienced users who wanted to play games designed for Windows using Linux and in the end complaining why those do not run without any hassle like they do using Windows.