Install Ventoy from Aur on a usb flash?

Hi friends.

I found Ventoy in the Aur repository, and also the installation guide:

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ventoy-bin
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ventoy

I guess if I download Ventoy from Aur, I don’t need to download it from any other site. So, do I have to use the same commands, or others? Because the official procedure says to download that file, so the Aur file doesn’t work?

Download the installation package, like ventoy-x.x.xx-linux.tar.gz and decompress it.
Run the shell script as root sh Ventoy2Disk.sh { -i | -I | -u } /dev/XXX XXX is the USB device, for example /dev/sdb.

Maybe some of you can tell me how you install it. (I always prefer to use packages from the Arch/Aur repositories, as our friends here on the forum taught me, but maybe there are packages that don’t work from Aur or something I don’t know about).

Thanks in advance.

Are you not using yay to install it if it’s from the AUR?

Edit: yay -S ventoy

OR

yay -S ventoy-bin

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you crack open the tarball.
format your usb ext4 or fat32. done both.
run install /.sh script in terminal, or rightclick it or doubleclick it. It should see the drive and install it. the directions you quoted are right on.

Personally I would go to the manufacturer web site (ventoy) and not AUR. don’t feel the need for a middleman for a usb program. but that’s me.
two cents

edit: to answer your question I have to assume that yay stashes that install /.sh somewhere. Don’t think it’s in /bin. you will have to look

second edit: read these comments at https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ventoy at the AUR. looks daunting with a so-so success rate but that’s my interpretation. It’s doable.

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Omg I’m dumb, the version of Aur is GUI, it’s not via terminal, sorry, my fault! I just had to run it from the start menu, so sorry!

Ventoy was installed all day on my PC: :sob:

Thank you for your help friends, I will not make this very basic mistake again!

Sorry @ricklinux @drunkenvicar one more question I forgot! Should I unmount the USB flash before formatting it with Ventoy? On Reddit they say yes, but in other forums they say no.

If Ventoy is installed via the AUR, it has the advantage that it receives updates via the AUR.

For me, the question is rather why I need Ventoy if I only ever have one ISO of one and the same distribution on there anyway. And this is replaced by a newer version at most twice a year. What is the advantage of using Ventoy instead of dd, for example?

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I personally don’t like ventoy. I only ever have one ISO too! It’s endeavourOS. :laughing:

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I haven’t used ventoy but i don’t think it’s necessary to unmount it.

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Once you endeavour … you never … distro hop! :wink:

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One could perhaps argue that the USB stick will last longer if it is not formatted so often … :thinking:

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Maybe? I beat the hell out of all my drives and never seem to have any issues with them.

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That would only be 2 processes per year anyway. Even the cheapest stick should be able to cope with that.

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Definitely there are a lot of cheap sticks out there. :wink:

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You two are right. Although… how did you know that I only have 1 iso? :eyes:

I mean, I have the EOS and Windows 10 ISO on Ventoy (I installed it when I was using Windows 10), I saved the Windows 10 ISO when I first installed EOS (in case EOS was too difficult for me, I could go back to Windows 10), about 10 months ago.

Now that I have been clean for 10 months :medal_sports: without using Windows 10, I already know that I will never need the Windows 10 ISO again, so yes, I only need to have the EOS ISO.

So, I only know RUFUS (on Windows 10) and Ventoy, I don’t know any other programs. Although I think they told me about that “dd” here on the forum, in some of my old threads, and I seem to remember that it comes preinstalled on EOS, so I should try it.

But I wonder, will it be as easy to “dd” as dragging the ISO into the Ventoy USB? :thinking:

(can you share a tutorial, I would like to try it)

PS: Yes, I know, I’ve been using EOS for almost a year and I’m still a noob, but I’ve learned many other things thanks to all of you! The thing is, there are still some basic things that I haven’t learned yet. :face_holding_back_tears:

Oh, I spent 1 week on Ubuntu, then about 3 weeks on Fedora Workstation, and finally I found EOS, and yes, I wouldn’t change it for anything!

Although there was a website called distrotest (it no longer exists), and I tried many distros there, because I wanted to see their desktops. Now I use distrosea.com, but that doesn’t count as distrohopping! :sweat_smile:

When a new EOS ISO comes out, I delete the previous one and always put the new one. I also had Ubuntu and Fedora on Ventoy, but I had to remove Ubuntu and Fedora because the Windows 10 ISO was 6gb if I remember correctly, so I could only leave Windows 10 and EOS. xD

I use popsicle on endeavouros. It’s in the AUR also. It provides a gui to write the ISO to usb.

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That is all correct. Ventoy simplifies the whole thing, at least for people who need several ISOs at the same time (for whatever reason). But, once you’ve outgrown the distro-hopping stage, this only plays a very minor role.

dd is included by default in all Linux distributions. It is a command line tool. However, if this is too complicated for you, isoimagewriter would be a good alternative.

with dd:

ISO on USB:
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=>  To view a list of all drives currently attached to your system run this command: lsblk
    
=>  umount /dev/sdX
    
=>  Change to the directory where the ISO is located:  cd [path/to/ISO]

=>  then you can ls (list / take a look at) your file with:  ls *.iso
    
=>  Now we should see our ISO file, and we’re inside the same directory with it.

    We can verify our current working directory with:  pwd  (pwd stands for Print Working Directory)
        
=>  Since, we’re already in the right directory, we can use:

    sudo dd if=[name-of-iso.iso] of=/dev/sdc bs=1M status=progress conv=fdatasync

how true. I still like to see what’s out there so have not outgrown checking stuff out but it’s rare it makes it to bare metal. Ventoy is a magnificent tool for that.

@nicknick you had a great variety of formatting opinions in here. I feel like the only user who uses gparted for all formatting needs. it’s a very blunt tool.

NO

dd is a very powerful tool and if you are not positive about what you are doing then you should not use dd. While its the only one I use there are several graphical ones that are much easier for the basic user.

# dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb

you ever mix up the two sdX’s? asking for a friend… :slight_smile:

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NO, but I know a guy who knows a guy :wink:

I just don’t want the OP to find out the hard way like that guy did :rofl:

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