How to run a stress-free EndeavourOS

Sorry i disagree but what ever. That’s my sole opinion and i never suggest as the first option when someone has a hardware issue to try the lts kernel. It’s the last option if everything else isn’t working then i would try that.

Edit: Sometimes it is the only solution at the time but not always.

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Not to be overly pedantic, but in the recent years there’s roughly a one year window between LTS releases, making it 1-12 months old - or 6 months on average.

As I said earlier, it makes sense to use the latest kernel if your hardware is not yet supported by the LTS kernel. But once LTS works with it, what’s the benefit to using the latest kernel? And I mean a concrete, real, observable benefit, not a vague feeling that it’s less suitable than the latest kernel…

Why wouldn’t your hardware be supported by the lts kernel? Is it becausethe lts hasn’t been updated yet? Well why would you want to use it if the hardware is newer then?

I think the latest Intel Arc graphics cards were unsupported in the LTS kernel for a bit but they are now.

Exactly my point!

Well, @dalto already mentioned the reason why one should use the LTS kernel – it is much less prone to breaking. Obviously, if your hardware is newer than the LTS kernel (meaning it’s a couple of months old), there is a chance you can’t use the LTS kernel because it does not support your hardware yet. So you have to use the mainline kernel, out of necessity. But once the LTS kernel is updated so that it works with your hardware, there is no reason not to use it.

I will admit to running the latest kernel (with the LTS kernel installed as a backup). That’s really more because I’m ok with running the risk of a break knowing I have a backup and I can, perhaps, support it’s development by being willing to submit bug reports after reviewing if it’s a known issue in kernel.org.

Why if the current kernels work fine then i have no reason to use it. My system doesn’t break all the time from updates so i have no concerns about that. If it happens i deal with it at the time. I use btrfs and btrfs-assistant with snapper-support and btrfsmaintenance. I’m good. I have no problem having lts as a backup but I’m just saying for me I have a different philosophy. I wouldn’t be using a rolling release distro if i always needed to be using an lts kernel. To each their own. :person_shrugging:

Edit: Worse comes to worse i just reinstall in a few minutes I’m back.

What does rolling release have to do with LTS kernel? LTS kernel rolls and updates like any other package.

Agree with others - this list of advice is definitely worth pinning :+1:

So… Does that mean next EOS release will be without eos-update-notifier? :wink:

Latest kernels … is what I mean. :innocent:

Yeah, but it also applies to the latest LTS kernel, does it not?

If it were up to me, yes.

Unfortunately, many people like this silly thing, for some reason.

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I guess so then it’s just a mindset thing i guess. :laughing:

No. Too many people would be sad about their update notifier going away. :sweat_smile:

@dalto
Do you see a problem with updating too much? I think it would be better since you would have less packages compared to infrequent updates. So if there is a problem you would think it’s easier to identify. :thinking:

Yeah, I know the feeling :sweat_smile:

Maybe a good compromise would be to change the default behavior and only show it once every week or so (as a way of spreading the above best practices to new users, so to speak) :man_shrugging:

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I would say that increasing update frequency adds risk since the chance of being impacted by a short-term problem is far greater.

On top of that, many individuals become frustrated by “having” to update so often. For those people this is a good way to lower that stress.

This is one of those balance things. Is making the problem easier to identify better than lowering the risks of it not happening in the first place?

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I think I’m a serial updater! :rofl: But definitely this is a good guide for most users including myself even if i don’t follow everything to the letter.

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I have been a serial updater as well. Usually multiple times per day. Whenever I would see my RED Pamac tray notifier.
But since I made the change to the LTS kernel today, I also just edited my pamac.conf to RefreshPeriod = 0. With the notifier now out-of-sight-out-of-mind, we’ll see if that’ll break my serial updating.
Pamac

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