I’ve been using chaotic-aur for a few packages such as their wine builds. However they duplicate stuff in aur but they don’t update as often as aur.
Currently if there is a package that is more recent in aur than chaotic-aur it won’t update it. I was wondering if anyone knew how I could change this behaviour.
Not sure what you are meaning here - but if the package came from AUR originally, then it updates from AUR regardless of its presence in Chaotic-AUR. I get informed by yay -Qua and update by yay -Sua as appropriate…
BTW - Chaotic earned its name 
For example when trying to install zoom with chaotic-aur enabled I get:
[duncanm@arch Downloads]$ yay -S zoom
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
Packages (1) zoom-5.6.6-1
Total Installed Size: 191.42 MiB
:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] n
When I disable chaotic-aur I get:
[duncanm@arch Downloads]$ yay -S zoom
:: There are 2 providers available for zoom:
:: Repository AUR
1) zoom 2) zoom-system-qt
Enter a number (default=1):
:: Checking for conflicts...
:: Checking for inner conflicts...
[Aur:1] zoom-5.6.7-1
:: Downloaded PKGBUILD (1/1): zoom
1 zoom (Build Files Exist)
==> Diffs to show?
==> [N]one [A]ll [Ab]ort [I]nstalled [No]tInstalled or (1 2 3, 1-3, ^4)
==>
So chaotic-aur is preventing me getting the latest packages if theirs is older.
Just try yay zoom - and it will present the choices even with chaotic enabled. Using the “-S” format calls on pacman for the work…
Might be the solution?
It’s a work around if I know there’s an update but probably more effort than occasionally disabling chaotic-aur and running yay.
I might head over to Garuda’s forum and see if they have any suggestions.
I don’t see how it’s a workaround - but then I am constantly aware of updates (separately) for both pacman and AUR - so I know when to run a yay-Sua (which is much more rare for me than a pacman-based update is!). There are any number of ways to keep informed oif update status, including the setting of eos-notifier (which also separates the 2 types) - or a little script that can fire you off the info as it happens (I run mine in a conky, but it could be systemd-time’d and use notify-send for example)
Eos notifier does not inform me if there is an package in aur that is newer than chaotic-aur… it will only inform me when it is updated in chaotic-aur.
Perhaps that package was originally installed from chaotic - it separately informs me as mentioned. I forget (off the top) how to determine where a package was originally sourced, but it should be possible to tell - perhaps by which cache it ‘lives’ in? Pacman’s or yay’s…
Well- that about covers what I know. I run one of chaotic-aur’s mirrors, so I like to decide for myself which versions are sourced where…
If I remember correctly you should have the ability to install a package using the format repo/package. For example you should be able to choose from yay zoom and chaotic-aur zoom using
yay aur/zoom
Or
yay chaotic-aur/zoom
Haven’t tried it in a while but it’s worth the shot. Also I know this doesn’t solve the other problem that you can track version of aur and chaotic-aur and choose which you want easily, but at least you don’t have to disable chaotic-aur everytime you want to install something from aur instead.
Perhaps another workaround could be to create an specific pacman config with chaotic repo called for example pacman-chaotic.conf. Then install or update packages from there by:
pacman -S PACKAGE --config /etc/pacman-chaotic.conf
pacman -Syu --config /etc/pacman-chaotic.conf
You could make aliases for this for not typing the whole long line each time.
And then use yay for install/update from official repos and AUR.
this seems like the best option.
I actually ended up creating a shell script as follows and attaching it to an alias:
yay -Syu --devel
sudo pacman -Syu --config /etc/pacman-chaotic.conf
You can add the a option to specify operating on the AUR, e.g.
yay -Sa zoom
will install zoom using the AUR PKGBUILD , and
yay -Syua
will check for AUR package updates.
That was exactly what I was looking for 
Edit:
Unfortunately not.
Unfortunately yay -Syua doesn’t update:
[duncanm@arch ~]$ yay -S teams
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
Packages (1) teams-1.4.00.7556-1
Total Installed Size: 267.32 MiB
:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
(1/1) checking keys in keyring [#############################################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking package integrity [#############################################################################] 100%
(1/1) loading package files [#############################################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking for file conflicts [#############################################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking available disk space [#############################################################################] 100%
:: Processing package changes...
(1/1) installing teams [#############################################################################] 100%
Optional dependencies for teams
libappindicator-gtk3: Systray indicator support [installed]
org.freedesktop.secrets: Keyring password store support [installed]
:: Running post-transaction hooks...
(1/3) Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...
(2/3) Refreshing PackageKit...
(3/3) Updating the desktop file MIME type cache...
[duncanm@arch ~]$ yay -Syua
:: Searching AUR for updates...
-> Missing AUR Packages: raine64
-> Flagged Out Of Date AUR Packages: ttf-twemoji wxgtk2.8
there is nothing to do
[duncanm@arch ~]$ yay -Sa teams
:: Checking for conflicts...
:: Checking for inner conflicts...
[Aur:1] teams-1.4.00.13653-1
1 teams (Build Files Exist)
==> Packages to cleanBuild?
==> [N]one [A]ll [Ab]ort [I]nstalled [No]tInstalled or (1 2 3, 1-3, ^4)
==>
:: PKGBUILD up to date, Skipping (1/1): teams
1 teams (Build Files Exist)
==> Diffs to show?
==> [N]one [A]ll [Ab]ort [I]nstalled [No]tInstalled or (1 2 3, 1-3, ^4)
==>
:: (1/1) Parsing SRCINFO: teams
==> Making package: teams 1.4.00.13653-1 (Mon 14 Jun 2021 17:45:29 +07)
==> Retrieving sources...
-> Found teams_1.4.00.13653_amd64.deb
==> Validating source files with sha256sums...
teams_1.4.00.13653_amd64.deb ... Passed
==> Making package: teams 1.4.00.13653-1 (Mon 14 Jun 2021 17:45:29 +07)
==> Checking runtime dependencies...
==> Checking buildtime dependencies...
==> Retrieving sources...
-> Found teams_1.4.00.13653_amd64.deb
==> Validating source files with sha256sums...
teams_1.4.00.13653_amd64.deb ... Passed
==> Removing existing $srcdir/ directory...
==> Extracting sources...
==> Sources are ready.
==> Making package: teams 1.4.00.13653-1 (Mon 14 Jun 2021 17:45:31 +07)
==> Checking runtime dependencies...
==> Checking buildtime dependencies...
==> WARNING: Using existing $srcdir/ tree
==> Sources are ready.
-> teams-1.4.00.13653-1 already made -- skipping build
loading packages...
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
Packages (1) teams-1.4.00.13653-1
Total Installed Size: 269.56 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: 2.24 MiB
:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
(1/1) checking keys in keyring [#############################################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking package integrity [#############################################################################] 100%
(1/1) loading package files [#############################################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking for file conflicts [#############################################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking available disk space [#############################################################################] 100%
:: Processing package changes...
(1/1) upgrading teams [#############################################################################] 100%
:: Running post-transaction hooks...
(1/3) Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...
(2/3) Refreshing PackageKit...
(3/3) Updating the desktop file MIME type cache...
[duncanm@arch ~]$
The reason this won’t work in this case is that I don’t think pacman tracks the source of the package. So if a package with the same name is in both a repo and the AUR, an AUR helper/pacman will see it as a repo package, not an AUR package.
I don’t think what @dodgypast is trying to do is possible without some way of prioritizing the AUR above certain repos but not others for updates. I don’t know of a helper that does that but there could be one.
I’m not sure what the output there is supposed to be showing - apparently you built the teams package version 1.4.00.13653-1 ?
yay’s -a option specifically queries the AUR. I have tested -Sa locally as I have a local repo with certain packages, and yay -Sa will install the AUR package instead.
It will install them, but I don’t think it will update them.
I’m pretty certain it will, but I’ll have to wait until there’s an update for a package I have in my local repo to test that. 
It doesn’t. I have tested it in the past.
Honestly, it would be bad if it did. If you are in doubt, here is some output from my system:
>> yay -Qi zfs-linux
Name : zfs-linux
Version : 2.0.4_5.12.9.arch1.1-1
Description : Kernel modules for the Zettabyte File System.
Architecture : x86_64
URL : https://zfsonlinux.org/
Licenses : CDDL
Groups : archzfs-linux
Provides : zfs spl
Depends On : kmod zfs-utils=2.0.4 linux=5.12.9.arch1-1
Optional Deps : None
Required By : znapzend
Optional For : None
Conflicts With : zfs-dkms zfs-dkms-git zfs-dkms-rc spl-dkms spl-dkms-git zfs-linux-git zfs-linux-rc spl-linux
Replaces : spl-linux
Installed Size : 13.28 MiB
Packager : Unknown Packager
Build Date : Thu 03 Jun 2021 04:44:41 PM CDT
Install Date : Tue 08 Jun 2021 05:30:59 PM CDT
Install Reason : Explicitly installed
Install Script : Yes
Validated By : Signature
>> yay -Si aur/zfs-linux [130]
:: Querying AUR...
Repository : aur
Name : zfs-linux
Keywords : None
Version : 2.0.4_5.12.10.arch1.1-1
Description : Kernel modules for the Zettabyte File System.
URL : https://zfsonlinux.org/
AUR URL : https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/zfs-linux
Groups : archzfs-linux
Licenses : CDDL
Provides : zfs spl
Depends On : kmod zfs-utils=2.0.4 linux=5.12.10.arch1-1
Make Deps : linux-headers=5.12.10.arch1-1
Check Deps : None
Optional Deps : None
Conflicts With : zfs-dkms zfs-dkms-git zfs-dkms-rc spl-dkms spl-dkms-git zfs-linux-git zfs-linux-rc spl-linux
Maintainer : minextu
Votes : 238
Popularity : 1.705159
First Submitted : Thu 21 Apr 2016 03:45:02 AM CDT
Last Modified : Sat 12 Jun 2021 04:08:25 PM CDT
Out-of-date : No
>> yay -Sua
:: Searching AUR for updates...
:: Checking development packages...
-> jedit: local (5.6.0-2) is newer than AUR (5.6.0-1)
:: 1 Packages to upgrade.
1 aur/vscodium-bin 1.56.2-1 -> 1.57.0-1
Teams 1.4.00.7556-1 is the most up to date in chaotic-aur, teams 1.4.00.13653-1 is more up to date and in aur.
I installed teams and it was grabbed from chaotic-aur, then I ran yay -Syua and it didn’t update to the later version that is in aur.