High settings freeze all the pc

i have a 6750x gpu and a 5900x processor with thermal paste applied this week and a 150w heat dissipation fan with radiator so the hardware is capable of running this.

at some point of gaming and only while gaming, the whole pc freezes and seconds after i get a total system black screen and nothing responds, the only solution is using the power button to shut down.

even just using minecraft with any shader and nothing more causes this, but happens in all games with high settings.

the idle & web browsing temperature are 40, 50º. indies are non-demanding games rise it to 80, 85, and demanding games to 92 before a total system freeze. i’ve never seen it higher than that, and monitoring the total cpu usage isn’t above 30%, and i also have generous RAM margin

the pc case isn’t even hot when i touch it even if cpu at 92!!! plz help me!!

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Also, for full system freezes, try this: [Tip] Enable Magic SysRq Key (REISUB)
This way you may not have to use the power button.

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journalctl

inxi

If you hit 92°C at 30% CPU usage… and have CPU temperatures of 55°C during normal use (which I assume that has been the case when you’re generating the inxi report)… than you may want to revisit your actual setup, even if you’re convinced that it should be adequate for 150w.

Thus, beside the log tools, I would be helpful to list your actual setup in detail. E.g. which CPU cooler you’re using, how many case fans for intake / outtake.

can the freezes be caused by heat?

there are 3 case fans and a cpu one. cpu is termaltake rig 12

i live in a snowy zone its very cold around the pc

i meant riing sorry.

i’ve been looking for solutions and wonder if just what i have is enought to cool this cpu of if i need an aio on top

please i need to know if i must spend more or there is a fault with the fan install.

92 degree by 30% is indeed very high, but on full load it will down clock your cpu if it gets too hot. Only in extreme conditions this can lead to a system shutdown.

My feeling this might be a power issue? What type of psu do you have? What is the max power lt can handle?

i forgot about it, its 800w

800 watt, if it is a quality device, should be enough.

Can you test the system with mprime (AUR) If this (with mprime set to test all cpu cores) result in system shutdown then there are definitively problems with your hardware.
If not the hardware should be fine, so a software problem might be the cause.

your journalctl does not include a indication of a software problem

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left it over 2 hours and no crash or freeze at all.

the worst that happened was konsole closing itself when i opened the browser and thats it

also despite 100% of the core being used temps were 85º almost all the time and just twice 91 and quickly went down

on the other hand ghost of tsushima one of the games im playing in max settings 120 fps reaches a 30% cpu usage but also 92º and after 10 minutes the whole system shits itself and blackscreen freezes.

Mmm your hardware seems fine, although i think there might be a problem with your gpu.
It seems to crash when playing games, and thus the gpu been used.
Gpu drivers perhaps?
try a different kernel?
try with a live boot

i tried changing kernels and issue persists im afraid.

im very out of ideas i dont know what can i do

Have you checked if the GPU is seated properly, if the power cables and fan headers are all connected as they should ? E.g. not using splitters or such. What about the fan controls within the bios ? Which profiles are set there, do the settings actually affect the fan speeds ? How much thermal paste have you applied ? Is it too much or too little ?

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improved the bios fan settings, made sure everything is wired well, and as experiment i removed the glass pane for more air flux

temps are sighly lower 2 to 5º and i hadn’t had a crash or freeze in 2 hours. again tested with shadered minecraft and tsushima.

its still very hot but i think we are approaching the right direction, can i blame this on poor ventilation then? what ideal extra cooling hardware if any should i get?

had a full system freeze after a week. everything was under 90º this time but still its still hot when at 30% usage

I’m not certain if feasible with your 5900x CPU, but you could check within your BIOS if you’re able to set a cTDP power limit. E.g. lowering the usual TDP of 105W for that processor down to 65W. Just to check if the temperatures are more manageable.

You’ve mentioned that you’ve got a Thermaltake Riing 12 CPU cooler installed. As there are several versions of this CPU cooler, can you link the one you’ve got from Thermaltakes website / list of products ?

As AMD recommends an AIO for that CPU to get the most out of it. That doesn’t mean that you’ve got to invest into one. As there are some rather beefy CPU heatsinks available. An Noctua is definitely on the pricy side, but the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE could be bought for less than $40

Have you tried repasting the CPU. These numbers are more indicative to me of a bad paste job. You should not be getting anywhere near 90C at 30% CPU usage with that CPU. Looks like the heatsink you are using is rated to 150w and the CPU tdp is 105w so that should be fine. So I would definitely repaste and verify the fan is mounted correctly, and visually verify it is spinning up under load.

yes here it is is this good enough then? i was worried reddit told i had to invest in a +200W one!

i will definitely review my paste! thanks yes i see it spinning right now, very fast

are liquid aios recommended or overkill? are they compatible with previous radiators?

The Peerless Assassin is listed to be capable of cooling 200W+ sufficiently. Just compare it to the one you’ve got currently. Yours has only four heatpipes, cooled down by a single fin stack and a single 120mm fan.
The Peerless Assassin instead has 6 heatpipes with two seperate fin stacks, each cooling down 3 heatpipes with two 120mm fans. Thus in terms of total surface area of the heatsinks, it would definitely make a difference.

In terms of AIOs. I personally don’t have any experience with one. They’re not cheap. And as you have to have several 120mm fans anyway which are cooling the liquid within the radiator / heat exchanger … the noise level might be pretty much the same. And the integrated liquid pump is an additional component prone to failure. Is that the case, when the AIO pump is gone bad. You’ve to replace the whole setup as they’re closed loops by design. On an air cooled heatsink, you could replace a fan which is gone bad pretty easily.

It’s not clear to me what you’re asking in terms of previous radiators ? Did you have an old radiator from an old custom waterloop left over? If so … the name describes the product. An AIO is in all-in-one solution. An closed watercooling loop, prefilled with liquid. And usually the water cooling block has the water pump integrated on top of it, The radiator is already attached with predetermined tubing, an liquid reservoir is either pretty limited as a separate chamber in the radiator or the water block I guess. Or even completely missing. That being said, it’s unlikely that you can reuse an old radiator.

Or are you simply mixing up the terms of a heat sink and a radiator ?