Floorp going closed source?

This disclaimer in large font would concern me:

A note on maintenance

This project will never make it past alpha, nor will it receive any bug fixes or new features that do not directly affect me (@trickypr). I am putting my energy towards a project using a different approach. For a rough guide to my reasoning, see this Mastodon post.

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there’s better spinoff browsers, better maintained, better committed to privacy, and open source. it’s pretty, but one could let floorp go.

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I can’t lie when I say that this issue goes over my head a little. While I agree with you, I also agree with the main developer. I guess I’m just neutral on this topic.

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I used to hate the name so much but just like this AWFUL instant coffee I’m occasionally forced to drink, it’s grown on me :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Brilliant

sigh

https://www.reddit.com/r/Floorp/comments/1bmac32/floorp_close_source_does_not_continue/

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Reminds me kind of what Red Hat tried to avoid, just rebranded simple forks without contribution to the source. I don’t know how much different Floorp is from Firefox, so cannot comment on if he or she is true to the words of own work. I don’t think the developer is complaining on forks that are more involved. Is Floorp really that different or does it only have different default settings and preinstalled extensions?

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Floorp is not just different default settings and preinstalled extensions. It has tons of other features. You can kind of think of it as the Vivaldi of the Gecko-world (in terms of features). And yes you are right, the developer isn’t complaning about all forks, only a certain few that rebrand Floorp without proper attribution and not making any contributions either.

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Like you I have no clue as to what Floorp does. I actually don’t care as I don’t use it. I just find it to be a very Microsoftish thing to do. I guess another question I would have is if they are producing their own code is that code being pushed upward and offered to FireFox?

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Does Firefox team want the changes in the first place? Same question to Floorp. If they don’t accept everything, then they cannot blame others for making forks, even if there are only a few changes. That’s the nature of open source in my opinion. But off course there is always some nuance to situations like these. I’m not a fan of it, but understand why it is being done (Floorp, Vivaldi, RHEL and so on).

Even if people do not make the contributions, they could just take it and add it themselves. The license ā€œshouldā€ allow it and there is no shame in ā€œstealingā€ (with proper attribution and licensing). There will always be bad thieves, but that’s the price to pay; on the other hand the the price to win, freedom, is much greater in my opinion. (sorry I’m rambling a bit)

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There is absolutely no reason for anyone to ever use a proprietary browser. It’s downright foolish and irresponsible to do so. The browser is the most critical program on one’s computer, having access to one’s private data like no other program.

It is so critical that you may assume that any browser that has even one line of code that is not publicly available, has malware in that line of code. If you cannot build the browser yourself or if it is not built by the maintainers of your distro (people you trust unconditionally, otherwise you wouldn’t be using their distro), you shouldn’t use it.

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Well i don’t!
…but at least i contemplate and suffer about it.

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@Kresimir Out of curiosity, what is your browser (or browsers) of choice?

I use my own build of LibreWolf.

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Are there any opensource, pre-built browsers you trust or would consider using?

LibreFrog?

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I’d use it.

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Yes, packages firefox, chromium, and torbrowser-launcher from the official Arch repos (extra) are at least as trustworthy as Arch Linux is. If you are using EndeavourOS, that means you have total and blind trust in Arch package maintainers, so you may safely use whatever they package, as long as it is not proprietary.

Anything outside the official Arch repos should be thoroughly scrutinised.

librewolf from the AUR should be trustworthy, but it’s not a binary package, so it will take a few hours (depending on your computer) to build. librewolf-bin is maintained by the same person as librewolf, and it’s the people who develop LibreWolf, so it is probably as trustworthy (although there is no way to verify). If you’re paranoid, and have a good computer, build it yourself.

Vivaldi, Chrome, Edge, Brave, Opera, etc… all have proprietary components and therefore should be instantly and without question dismissed as malware.

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