Endeavour os and Kde plasma are God-Sent 
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I’m a happy Kde Plasma user and I like this idea! I have only wifi connection and online installation is slow even if my wifi isn’t the worst one. So minimal approach on the amount of packages sounds great. 
Quite hard…
~🐸 pacman -Qi sddm-kcm
Name : sddm-kcm
Version : 5.22.3-1
Description : KDE Config Module for SDDM
Architecture : x86_64
URL : https://kde.org/plasma-desktop/
Licenses : GPL
Groups : plasma
Provides : None
Depends On : sddm knewstuff systemsettings
Optional Deps : None
Required By : None
Optional For : None
Conflicts With : None
Replaces : None
Installed Size : 436.50 KiB
Packager : Antonio Rojas <arojas@archlinux.org>
Build Date : Tue 06 Jul 2021 13:37:13 CEST
Install Date : Sun 11 Jul 2021 08:22:01 CEST
Install Reason : Explicitly installed
Install Script : No
Validated By : Signature
Yeah the only problem i was talking about kdiff3 
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My opinion is that if we want a minimal option, leave it minimal. It is already pretty non-minimal. Everyone has their favorite package that they would want added. I actually think some packages should be removed.
- kio-drive
- audiocd-kio
Very few people need either of these packages and many people specifically don’t want any google-related packages in their install.
kde-applications is an enormous group. It is virtually all the k* apps. Almost nobody would consider that “minimal”. packagekit-qt5 should never be in the default install because it will activate the built-in plasma package updater and using that is unsafe.
No, xfce isn’t really any lighter than any other desktop since they switched to gtk3
I think this would be a mistake. Although I prefer a minimal install, most people expect a desktop with some tools by default. Also, an install without the whole plasma group will cause hassles for those who don’t understand plasma enough to understand what is missing when something they expect to work is missing or broken. I think the list in the old installer was a good compromise between minimal and bloated. The nice thing about the EOS installer is that you can unselect things. For example, when I do an install I unselect everything except the plasma group and then wish that konsole was on the list by itself instead of part of one of those meta packages.
The reality is there is no selection of packages that will please everyone. No matter how minimal you make it, people will complain it isn’t minimal enough. No matter how many packages you include others will complain it is missing things they need.
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My minimal Arch install pacstrap is plasma, sddm, firefox, nano, iwd, man, grub, efibootmgr, konsole, dolphin, ark, kate, spectacle,and amd-ucode for my hardware.
Then i add my normal software applications after the install.
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I don’t see this. Did they rename it to something else?
It is a group.
pacman -Sg kde-applications
kde-applications akonadi-calendar-tools
kde-applications akonadi-import-wizard
kde-applications akonadiconsole
kde-applications akregator
kde-applications ark
kde-applications artikulate
kde-applications audiocd-kio
kde-applications blinken
kde-applications bomber
kde-applications bovo
kde-applications cantor
kde-applications cervisia
kde-applications dolphin
kde-applications dolphin-plugins
kde-applications dragon
kde-applications elisa
kde-applications ffmpegthumbs
kde-applications filelight
kde-applications granatier
kde-applications grantlee-editor
kde-applications gwenview
kde-applications itinerary
kde-applications juk
kde-applications k3b
kde-applications kaddressbook
kde-applications kajongg
kde-applications kalarm
kde-applications kalgebra
kde-applications kalzium
kde-applications kamera
kde-applications kamoso
kde-applications kanagram
kde-applications kapman
kde-applications kapptemplate
kde-applications kate
kde-applications katomic
kde-applications kbackup
kde-applications kblackbox
kde-applications kblocks
kde-applications kbounce
kde-applications kbreakout
kde-applications kbruch
kde-applications kcachegrind
kde-applications kcalc
kde-applications kcharselect
kde-applications kcolorchooser
kde-applications kcron
kde-applications kde-dev-scripts
kde-applications kde-dev-utils
kde-applications kdebugsettings
kde-applications kdeconnect
kde-applications kdegraphics-mobipocket
kde-applications kdegraphics-thumbnailers
kde-applications kdenetwork-filesharing
kde-applications kdenlive
kde-applications kdepim-addons
kde-applications kdesdk-kioslaves
kde-applications kdesdk-thumbnailers
kde-applications kdf
kde-applications kdialog
kde-applications kdiamond
kde-applications keditbookmarks
kde-applications kfind
kde-applications kfloppy
kde-applications kfourinline
kde-applications kgeography
kde-applications kget
kde-applications kgoldrunner
kde-applications kgpg
kde-applications khangman
kde-applications khelpcenter
kde-applications kig
kde-applications kigo
kde-applications killbots
kde-applications kimagemapeditor
kde-applications kio-extras
kde-applications kio-gdrive
kde-applications kipi-plugins
kde-applications kirigami-gallery
kde-applications kiriki
kde-applications kiten
kde-applications kjumpingcube
kde-applications kleopatra
kde-applications klettres
kde-applications klickety
kde-applications klines
kde-applications kmag
kde-applications kmahjongg
kde-applications kmail
kde-applications kmail-account-wizard
kde-applications kmines
kde-applications kmix
kde-applications kmousetool
kde-applications kmouth
kde-applications kmplot
kde-applications knavalbattle
kde-applications knetwalk
kde-applications knights
kde-applications knotes
kde-applications kolf
kde-applications kollision
kde-applications kolourpaint
kde-applications kompare
kde-applications konqueror
kde-applications konquest
kde-applications konsole
kde-applications kontact
kde-applications kontrast
kde-applications konversation
kde-applications kopete
kde-applications korganizer
kde-applications kpat
kde-applications krdc
kde-applications kreversi
kde-applications krfb
kde-applications kross-interpreters
kde-applications kruler
kde-applications kshisen
kde-applications ksirk
kde-applications ksnakeduel
kde-applications kspaceduel
kde-applications ksquares
kde-applications ksudoku
kde-applications ksystemlog
kde-applications kteatime
kde-applications ktimer
kde-applications ktorrent
kde-applications ktouch
kde-applications ktuberling
kde-applications kturtle
kde-applications kubrick
kde-applications kwalletmanager
kde-applications kwave
kde-applications kwordquiz
kde-applications kwrite
kde-applications lokalize
kde-applications lskat
kde-applications marble
kde-applications markdownpart
kde-applications mbox-importer
kde-applications minuet
kde-applications okular
kde-applications palapeli
kde-applications parley
kde-applications partitionmanager
kde-applications picmi
kde-applications pim-data-exporter
kde-applications pim-sieve-editor
kde-applications poxml
kde-applications print-manager
kde-applications rocs
kde-applications signon-kwallet-extension
kde-applications spectacle
kde-applications step
kde-applications svgpart
kde-applications sweeper
kde-applications telepathy-kde-accounts-kcm
kde-applications telepathy-kde-approver
kde-applications telepathy-kde-auth-handler
kde-applications telepathy-kde-call-ui
kde-applications telepathy-kde-common-internals
kde-applications telepathy-kde-contact-list
kde-applications telepathy-kde-contact-runner
kde-applications telepathy-kde-desktop-applets
kde-applications telepathy-kde-filetransfer-handler
kde-applications telepathy-kde-integration-module
kde-applications telepathy-kde-send-file
kde-applications telepathy-kde-text-ui
kde-applications umbrello
kde-applications yakuake
kde-applications zeroconf-ioslave
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Even if I don’t actively use plasma anymore I totally agree with a minimal install option (not be the only option tho, probably a lot of people will still prefere the normal kde installation). I also think should be present for other DE too but I don’t really ever have checked what can be stripped from the other. Usually install only base system, also unchecking some packages, and then start from there for the DE/wm.
Unless you install on a very tight-resource machine, it doesn’t matter so much if you choose the minimun or normal options. Most standard apps doesn’t take much space and won’t consume RAM if you don’t use them.
It does long-term.
- Your updates will be much larger. If you are bandwidth constrained, this can be an issue.
- Your updates will be more complicated. The more software you have installed, the more chance to hit a difficult or blocking situation in an update.
- System maintenance is generally easier with less packages as there are less problems to deal with.
- Many packages have components that run all the time so just installing them can cause resource usage.
Looks like python-dbus has been replaced by dbus-python.
Yes… i noticed that the other day also looking at the packages.
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After using Gnome3 then Gnome40 for some weeks and also XFCE i moved back to KDE plasma.
I think it’s the most complete GUI out there. Also is very light in comparison with Gnome and all the effects are more smoothly.
Also is much more scalable and customizable than the others.
For me KDE always will be my first choise and it’s awesome with the EndeavourOS
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Welcome to the community
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Welcome to the forum!
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Thanks a lot 
KDE always is a good option. It has all you need
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