First post, so I guess an intro would be good.
20-year Linux user, 2-year Arch user (BTW, lol,) musician, car mechanic, and general “Mister Fix-it” to family and friends.
Discovered EOS a few weeks ago, have been testing installs in a few VMs. Only using the online installer. Looks nice.
Except as a “power user” who wants to control everything that gets installed, or at least know about it before it gets installed, the “Desktop-Base + Common packages” item on the package selection page, is a bit of a black box.
I assume the items visible when this is expanded are the “Common packages”. These, like all the others on the page, may be deselected.
But the “Desktop-Base” part doesn’t show you what it installs, or let you change anything. And it’s not just Arch base + base-devel, it includes every disk format progs/tools package, encryption stuff, dracut, eos keyring/mirrorlist/hooks, linux+firmware/headers, and many utilities. Some of which are necessary, some not.
It’s not a bad thing, per se, but I like to know what’s being installed. And probably wouldn’t install some things, like reiserfs or jfs utilities. And others, like dracut, I’d never heard of before and would want, so seeing it up front rather than discovering it afterward would have been nice.
So those are in /etc/calamares/modules/pacstrap.conf, on the live iso, if anyone else wants to view them before installing.
Personally, I would prefer to see the base install listed separately as an expandable list where items could be deselected. With a message such as “don’t change this unless you know what you are doing.” And a way to add extra packages would be nice, but that’s easy enough to do after the install. Other than that, the installer is still pretty “user friendly” while also mostly “power user friendly.”
Building a new PC. Been debating whether to go EOS or “straight Arch.” Already ruled out Manjaro and Garuda for various reasons. Probably will go with EOS after researching the “base packages” described above. Graphical installer is nice, I can install Arch with pacstrap or archinstall, but Calamares saves a lot of time and lets you go “back” and check things if necessary before it actually starts making changes.
I also like that the EOS community has a reputation for being more friendly/helpful than Arch. I haven’t personally been on the receiving end of any “RTFM” replies, as I usually just figure stuff out myself, and don’t think I’ve ever even posted on an Arch forum. But I don’t go for the general “Linux elitism” encountered in many places (not just Arch.) We were all n00bs once, who, even if we knew how to search, didn’t know the right keywords to search for, or how to understand the tech-speak in results we did find.