Endeavour is one of Distrowatch's OS of the year

The latest Distrowatch weekly includes its best open source operating systems of 2025, and :enos: is one of the four selected:

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Yeah EndeavourOS is the best Linux distro! :enos: :enos_flag: :purple_heart:

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“The one element I felt was missing was a graphical software centre; we need to use the command line package manager, at least until we install a graphical software centre.”

Honestly, I think command line package managers are the best. :slight_smile:

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Endeavour is as much terminal-centric as advertised, so I don’t get the point of lack of GUI package managers.That’s my $0.02.
Still, appreciate that Endeavour made it to the list. As ‘Arch with sane defaults’, as I like to call it, it is very reliable.

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It’s tough to overcome the perception that the terminal is a dark and scary place with no guardrails, especially for a very common task like installing software. Asking users to jump right into the terminal can be a big “Hol’ up!” for some.

That’s not the case for many folks here, especially as we advertise “terminal-centric” right up front. But I can see how generalists might find it a missed opportunity.

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Proud to be an endeavourite! :wink:

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Totally agree :victory_hand:.

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It’s become the default standard way of installing packages for so many people outside the Arch eco system. Many in the Arch eco system do offer a graphical or two. So there is this “Expectation” that we should just have one to. Personally think that most Gui package mangers are bloat. However for the Point and Click type they are essential to their Operating needs.

I’m not anti Gui I actually probably use a Gui more than the command line however there are certain task that the command line just does better. Its generally just cleaner and much faster than GUI. But Hey use what works best for YOU. So use a GUI package manager if that is your work flow.

As far as the Article its nice to see some out there still enjoy the Simplicity of what is EndeavourOS.

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Awesome, EndeavourOS all the way! :enos_flag: :victory_hand:

A couple of things though…
“I like my day-to-day operating systems to be static, predictable, reliable”
What is this blimmin’ obsession with people pushing the myth that rolling distros are unreliable, it’s simply not true.
Reddit is teaming with people talking like their systems will spontaneously combust every 15 minutes if they install a rolling distro, and users of rolling distros sitting there happy that the myth exists because it makes them feel like geniuses for using a rolling distro.

“The one element I felt was missing was a graphical software centre”
Yeh, it’s Linux, it has a terminal.

Sorry, I get quite irritable this time of year. :laughing:

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Anyone who uses Endeavor knows that using the terminal is normal. On an older PC, I installed a Debian derivative, and sometimes it’s normal for me to install from the terminal even in that distro.

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I prefer using the terminal for updates especially because my experiences with gnome software and kde discover are that they don’t work. I used to like synaptec in debian because it worked so I’m not anti gui at all.

The previous two I just mentioned seem to take ages to search for updates or download a lot of the time, or maybe they just don’t relay that they are actually doing something so you get impatient and frustrated. Actually seeing what it is doing is scary too though for some users as the slightest “error” and you think it’s gone wrong.

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  1. @Bryanpwo and his crew deserve this kudos from Jessie

  2. the fix really is in at DW….MXLinux, the #1 ranking distro for what feels like 50 years now is in the running with Endeavour, Mint (??), and a no-name Fedora immutable knockoff.

Only one clear winner to me (and it’s the purple one by a mile).

MXLinux not worthy of carrying Endeavour’s jock :american_football: , to mangle metaphors…OK, will show myself to the door..

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Most of them are using outdated systems like Ubuntu/Mint/ZorinOS/Pop! Os/Debian

If you read those forums they all say rolling releases are not as stable as theirs. They aim on system stability. If this is true, i wonder why so many people has issues with their systems. Zorin OS forum for sample has alot of complaints…or the ubuntu forums.

That said, arch based distributions are very stable. If something goes wrong most of the time it’s a user error.

What i do like about arch based systems is the fact you can get everything very fast (updates/latest software) while using a “stable” distro you have to wait years…or need to find some ppa or some trick to get something.

i like that the fact:

The one element I felt was missing was a graphical software centre

is prominent mentioned in the article, :wink:

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Wow, I never expected this! :sparkling_heart:

Now I feel a bit bad for saying that I don’t add much value to Distrowatch rankings in an interview some years ago. My apologies, Jesse.

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That is a nice article. I am supporting their choices. EnOS is obvioulsy my top #1 distro. But I very much appreciate that they have put LMDE7 on top. LMDE is an amazingly good distro. And the article made me download HeliumOS and test it in a VM.

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In the open source world, stable always meant unchanging as in no new version leaps, With the classic definition they are right. If they are using stable to mean reliable, then they are wrong.

I can do the same with endeavour os if i don’t update for over 2 years. At least this is an option under endeavour os. In ubuntu (Ubuntu based) that choice has been made for you :joy:.

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This unstable label is true for server environments. E.g. try to run a nextcloud server with a rolling release distro. I tried it on endeavouros and the experience was not good. Every once in a while a php, php-fpm, mariadb, apache or nginx update broke the nextcloud. It was basically unmaintainable.

The more complex your environment is, the more you understand why rolling releases are called unstable.

On the other hand, if you just use a desktop PC with a browser and an email client a rolling release can be rock solid for you.

EDIT:
The classification stable/unstable in the debian world means “applications have a stable API”. No changes in the API during updates means all scripts and tools work together forever. No update can break the communication between tools. That is what stable means. And that is, by definition, not the case with a rolling release because they update tools with API changes without hesitation.

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