Do you trust Firefox's sync feature?

Yes, I’m using sync, very handy.
Storing passwords with Bitwarden.

No Fear.

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Reasonably. It’s a four quadrant matrix: important - unimportant and frequently - infrequently. Everything unimportant and frequently also* goes into Firefox sync. Infrequently mostly doesn’t happen. Important is usually never put into a third party cloud service.

*The Source of Truth lives in a local storage, FF sync just for convenience.

Just a note for Librewolf potential users - there’s a fork from dr460nf1r3 called firedragon you might want to check out. It’s in AUR (inclcuding a nightly build), definitely in chaotic-aur - but may be aimed a bit towards KDE appearance-wise…

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@keybreak
Frankly I really don’t understand why someone will fork Firefox. After reading your post about Mozilla receiving money from Google I did some research about this and found out that Mozilla was receiving money from Google only because the default search engine on Firefox used to be Google. Now they are receiving money from Yahoo as they have made Yahoo the default search engine these days.

So what’s the risk in using Firefox ? A user can change the default search engine quite easily.
Do you suspect Mozilla has planted a back door in Firefox ?

Now, the existence of Brave really makes sense coz everyone on planet earth knows the fact that Chrome is a privacy nightmare.

There are plenty of reasons, you can read why on LIbreWolf.

Mainly it come down to:

  1. Cut all the crap from code like Sync, pocket etc.
  2. Set sane defaults for Privacy / Security without breaking too much stuff
    …and lots more

Sure you can do most of that stuff on your own with Mozilla’s source code and settings since it’s open-source - but that’s hell of a job to do on your own (a lot of stuff changes constantly), so you can forget about timely updates then :laughing:

One could argue use of some privacy focused user.js, but that’s not enough and not end of story. Most of them are far from being optimal in terms of breaking stuff.


In November 2017, however, Mozilla announced that it was switching back to Google as the default search engine. This represented an early termination of its Yahoo partnership

Absolute most of Mozilla’s money come from Google this days.

It’s not the default search engine which gets me worry - it’s about power and dominance of single company and total monopolization by Google, the decision making.

All the spooky stuff and censorship advocacy doesn’t come overnight out of the blue, you know.

P.S. btw TOR and GNU IceCat are also Firefox forks - both are hardly usable for normal daily browsing though :upside_down_face:

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I use the sync. I send recipes online I find to my phone. I’m started to give up hope there’s anything free about computers beyond throwing this pile of trash into the ocean with my cell phone and walking away.

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https://paste2.org/zF2Zk6fm

I cant install librewolf. What’s going wrong ?

oh it’s pgp error.

@dalto is there some ubuntu keyserver stuff to make it work?

Try that before install:

gpg --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 2954CC8585E27A3F

It may help

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Librewolf vs Brave … Do you trust Brave like you trust Librewolf ?

Of course not, it’s not to be trusted, you can find some more info here

That’s pretty good summary to start

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I am usually very security conscious and don’t trust corporations, but I do use Firefox’s sync feature. Not so much for passwords, or at least ones I care about (KeepassXC for that,) but I have a crap-ton of bookmarks and I like accessing my porn history…on all my devices. I haven’t really found a good alternative that is easy to use, so I stick with the :fox_face:.

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You can select what parts you use, I sync bookmarks, history, and extensions, that’s it.

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Oh wow, I missed that bit in settings. No passwords from now on to be shared on the laptops etc, or anything else that goes outside the house! Thanks for the heads up :grin:

If i can’t sync, I refuse to use a browser. I trust mozilla the most.

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No problem. I’ve been using sync for a few years now, but passwords are handled by BitWarden, and I don’t save credit cards or addresses with anyone, so I was only willing to use it if’n I could choose what got saved.

Firefox sync uses e2e encryption, so it’s safe. There is of course the danger of installing a poisoned version of Firefox with modified sync code, but the same applies to Bitwarden and any other tools storing data remotely.

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Exactly. If you are too paranoid to trust any online service of any kind, why are you online at all?

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@khagaroth

Welcome to the forum. Thanks for giving EndeavourOS a try. I hope you enjoy your time here.

Pudge

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No.

First of all, welcome to the forum!

e2e encryption is only safe if you trust the provider. In the end, the question continues to be “Do you trust Mozilla and/or whoever built your binary with whatever data you choose to sync?”

Technically speaking, since Firefox is open source, if you have the time, knowledge and willingness to read and understand the encryption and sync code, follow and review all the changes and build it yourself from source, you wouldn’t have to trust anyone. I don’t think many people fall into that category though. :nerd_face:

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