Thanks for clearing that up! I need to take a closer look at them both, but not having a supported phone to really try them, it is just being pushed down my to-do list all the time.
Actually, just asked in their Matrix channel, the Calyx devs do not implement any extra security measures beyond what AOSP does. But that baseline is googleās security model, which isnāt bad at all.
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Did someone mention the Vollaphone yet? If you want to use some Linux distro on your phone itās in my point of view at the moment the best choice.
Its not the cheapest phone but they support the Linux community. Agenda Volla Community days. They also have spent some money on the first anbox campaign
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I disagree slightly with your staying with iOS, only because there are some advantages in using the Android platform in conjunction with Linux. I will preface this with, I would love to have a Linux phone and de-Google completely, but not really an option atm. With that said, using an android phone gives you the option of using KDE Connect for either KDE or Gnome (GSConnect) desktop, which has some nice features for productivity, etc. Also, you can use FDroid, the open source app store. All the apps I use on my phone are from there. I have removed all the default apps, except the ones from Google you canāt delete.
I agree with the pixel phone. I have a Pixel 4A/5G, great camera, 3yrs + worth of updates, and great battery. I believe, and I could be wrong here, that pixel phones, whether now or down the road, usually end up working with Linux phone software eventually. So, hopefully when my 3yrs is up on updates, I could possible load up an open source option. That is my thinking and hope.
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Have you looked at CalyxOS or GrapheneOS?
They both offer well-regarded privacy focused alternatives for pixel.
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Using the OnePlus phone. OxygenOS (Android) Until i see an EndeavourOS phone Iām not changing! 
EWwwwwwā¦thank you. I didnāt know about those two. 
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andriod ios both the same . no worse no better ā¦ use what fit your needs + how it used . When linux powered mobile like pine become stable enough ( which it slowly become ) That when linux users will jump for joy . just my opinon
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Iād recommend Calyx over Graphene. Graphene is ok, but if youāre using your phone for day to day simple stuff, it can become a nightmare because it wonāt even install simple things like GCam mods.
Calyx comes with microG installed (optionally on first run), so that you can use the likes of GCam and the Aurora store, and while not completely as hardened as Graphene, is pretty close.
Also, Graphene makes some puzzling choices. For a supposedly ultra-hardened version of Android, its default browser, Vanadium, doesnāt block ads, and uses Google as its default search engine.
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Well, grapheneās priorities arenāt necessarily ad-blocking. Security trumps all for the lead dev, and vanadium is quite hardened.
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Iām using an Xperia XZ2 with Lineage OS. My next phone will definitely be another Xperia and probably wen 5G rolls around over here in quite a few years still from the looks of it.
Yeah, but for a supposedly hardened privacy focused rom, itās a bit of a puzzling choice to not block ads by default in the browser.
I also much prefer the dev team and community of CalyxOS to the Graphene equivalent.
or at /e/ ?
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How well do de-googled phone OSās work in terms of application/program availability and functionality. Donāt lots of applications have a heavy reliance on Google Play Servives?
I would say not. Any attempt to use Google Play results in nothing, as it isnāt working here in Canada apparently. Makes it even more irritating to have such things force-loaded on your phone!
One of the reasons I went to LineageOS on my Samsung A5 
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Most people switch to MicroG which provides some of the functionality of google play services.
That being said, apps that use safetynet generally wonāt work. At least not easily. It mostly banking and financial applications that use safetynet.
As ever, there is a trade-off between functionality and privacy.
The response you quoted was to someone who had a device which isnāt supported by /e/.
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@dalto is right on spot, except for a few applications relying on safetynet (which are apps I would personally never use on a phone anyway) everything will be available and functional on a custom degoogled OS. You can even install microG to āreplaceā Play Services and even Cloud Messaging (or whatever g**gle call their push service).
Iāve been using ungoogled custom rom since my first Galaxy S II and i never felt like missed anything, on the very contrary.
I might not be able to pay for a baguette with my phone (why?!) and, if I trusted my bank enough to install one of their app on my phone, it might not work without g**gle (most of the time itās because one would have root access and/or open bootloader, and you can totally have a degoogled phone without root privileges and unlocked bootloader, which could satisfy oneās urge to pay for a croissant with his phone), but, in the end, the apps I miss, well, I donāt, cause I would never use those on a phone (and you probably can do the exact same thing logging on a website from your phone webrowser anyway) and I feel a bit more confident having this thing laying around me then.
But I guess everybody is differentā¦ I guess people do pay 50cts with their card or phoneā¦ One should list the apps that would not work and see if it worth keeping it or stepping out of the Goolag !
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There is a constantly updated thread over at /e/ foundationās forum with a list of apps that work or not with MicroG:
https://community.e.foundation/t/list-apps-that-work-or-do-not-work-with-microg/21151
edit >> correcting typos 
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thanks for the link !
it appears that a lot of banking apps i would have assume wouldnāt work are actualy supportedā¦ which doesnāt even leave a handfull of incompatible applicationsā¦ sweet 
Cheers!
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Sony areā¦not badā¦in that regard. The real problem is that also the open program depends on Sony releasing the kernel source for the device, and they sometimes leverage the program itself and release half backed product expecting the community to solve the problem. One example is the very poor job done with the X. The latest major kernel released is just broken and randomly reboot the phone and wifi disconnects on screen off. So you can port a lot a ROM to SODP devices (Iāve done it on mine) but it depends if youāre lucky (or very skilled) and the device you use doesnāt have this kind of problems.