Can't fullscreen any app after update to Kernel 6.13.1

Ok, I’m confused by this one, as my wife & I have nearly identical systems, Same Vide card, same CPU, different Motherboard.

The other day I noticed there were Kernel & Header updates available
I would be going from 6.12.10.arch1-1 → 6.13.1.arch1-1

She preformed updates with no problem, I preformed updates, with no problem

After rebooting everything works fine on her system, but on mine, attempting to full screen something, be it a game, or video playback, regardless of player, browser etc. results in a blank screen. The monitor actually acts as if it’s not receiving a signal at all.

Thank you BTRFS I did a rollback, and played around and confirmed that with any & all available updates except the kernel, everything still works fine.

As soon as I install the updated kernel & headers, the problem returns, and I can’t seem to piece together why. A quick search of these forms and the web at large doesn’t seem to show anyone else having this issue, so I’m very much under the impression that I “did the thing” but have no clue what that could be.

Any suggestions on how to try and track this down, or even fix it would be greatly appreciated.

Not happening here. :wink:

Edit: Has to be something different on yours. Installed packages? Changes you’ve made?

I mean there’s my problem, installed packages, MANY this system has been running without issue for years.

Changes I’ve made? I mean, other than the usual end-user type stuff, themes, etc. I’m not rummaging around in random dot files or anything.

I can’t find any other instance anywhere of this happening to anyone, but I’m at a loss as to how to figure out how to trace it back, other than to know for sure that it’s happening when I update the kernel itself.

I’m not overly familiar with how to troubleshoot stuff, Endeavour has always just worked for me.
Aside from the occasional Downgrading of a package when something broke (looking at you Jellyfin & dotnet)

I’m just not sure where to begin looking.

I thought about maybe trying to run one of said programs from the command line, so that I could see the output, but i wouldn’t have a clue what to look for. I would need help.

What is the hardware on this computer? inxi -Faz | eos-sendlog You can post the url. I don’t know whether i can pinpoint anything but at least take a look and think about it.

here you go:

https://0x0.st/8KY9.txt

As said my Wife system is nearly identical & not having the issue. Same CPU, Same GPU, Same RAM, only difference is the motherboard, (I went for more USB ports, she went for better onboard sound) but they run the same chipset.

Okay i see the hardware and it is X570 platform, UEFI Bios is up to date. The correct drivers are loaded and being used. (amdgpu)

I also am running an X570 platform with RX590 Graphics which is a predecessor to what you have. I have similar cpu also and am on KDE too.

So there has to be something you have changed? Are you running breeze for icons and global theme?

Edit: It is more than likely some change you have made in Kde.

Would the theme really affect ONLY full screen issues, like that? And so badly as to have the monitor display no signal?

I am NOT running stock Breeze theme, but it was working fine prior to the kernel update, did not change in the last few weeks, but I’ll give it a try, go completely like stock theme/look/defaults and see what happens

outside of themes straight from the KDE “get new themes” (or appearances, colors etc) button I havn’t changed anything

That’s all i can suggest is to try the standard breeze global theme for EndeavourOS and breeze icons and what ever else you may have changed. But no it shouldn’t monitor display no signal. I was only thinking the fullscreen part.

Edit: The gpu isn’t going to sleep and not waking when this happens?

Not sure how I could tell, but I doubt it, as it happens immediately as I hit full-screen mode on anything, and resumes if I go back (horary hot-keys). Symptoms present the same with videos played in VLC, Haruna, Jellyfin-media-player, MPC, YouTube through Firefox, and also “borderless-windowed” full screen mode of games etc.

EDIT: just remembered something i very recently installed (but to my recollection did not activate) Kvantum could this be it?

Exactly!

Edit: Might be that!

Hopefully separate & unrelated:

paid a little bit closer attention during upgrading the kernel this time, seeing this message:

Assuming that’s not part of the problem but…

Error! openrazer-driver/3.7.0: Missing the module source directory or the symbolic link pointing to it.
Manual intervention is required!

Error! openrazer-driver/3.8.0: Missing the module source directory or the symbolic link pointing to it.
Manual intervention is required!

As for the Kvantum would it not be strange to work fine before hte kernel upgrade but not after?

Attempting to upgrade again now, see you after the reboot

Pay close attention when you see these messages. Sometimes they are marked with a n or a Y or opposite when changes need to happen. Sometimes you have to change the small letter to capital in order for it to happen.

No luck
Kvantum uninstalled,
Stock Breeze theme
same issue

Strange? And it doesn’t happen on the other computer that’s similar?

Edit: Did you reboot after uninstalling kvantum?

No, she upgraded to the new kernel the day it released and has had zero issues.

Did you reboot after removing kvantum?

not in-between Kvantum & the kernel,
Did Kvantum, then kernel, then reboot

Worth noting that the system doesn’t freeze, can still hear the video or whatever playing, just no visual, can hit Escape or other hotkeys to get out of full screen everything comes immediately back

Maximizing a window is no problem, it’s only when something is “full” full screened

On the plus side, at least rolling back is easy enough & I can attempt different solutions back & forth, but yeah I’m stumped.

That’s why i have btrfs also with btrfs-assistant!

Try these or a combination of these:

Try another user profile to see if it has the same issue(s) under your usual conditions.

  • If another user profile works just fine, then yes, it is your settings, but God knows what is causing it :sweat_smile:

Another option is to try a different kernel — meaning LTS or Zen.

  • If a different kernel works, but you have some specific reason for using the current kernel, then you can use the other kernel for now until a new current kernel update is ready

Try another WM/WC: I’d recommend Hyprland for Wayland and something simple like Openbox for X11. I don’t recommend installing another full DE like Gnome, Cinnamon, etc.

  • And if another environment works, then KDE doesn’t like something about your hardware/drivers/etc. at the moment, which again is likely temporary, and you just need to wait for another update