Can you rip a BluRay?

OK here’s the situation:

there’s a limited BluRay release of an awful 80s movie. What I’m interested in is the (film geek inside me) is the interviews of all the people who participated in present day. It was 90 minutes long. The director was Robert Altman. It can’t be found thru, um, usual channels…

so BluRay DVD is cheeep of the new re-release (amazon & ebay).

QUESTION: can it be ripped, the VOB crap and all? By Handbrake or some ffmpeg front end? then played in VLC or my TV?

I have no idea what makes BluRay different than a DVD.

Muchas

I think this might work.

I’ve used this with limited success (parts of it were way over my head) with DVDs before but it’s reassuring it does BluRays.

A BluRay ray player plays Blurays. Would any old Linux player like VLC play a BluRay I wonder?

I think it should,

OK…you need the right plugins…got it now.

Not every ‘player’ can do this without help as far as Linux goes…

But my standalone DVD player, to my understanding, and my digital tv via usb, would not be able to play the BluRay.

I can live with this ‘making of’ documentary on EOS/my 24" screen.

Thanks for steering me in the right direction. Will study your links Smokey, thank you.

what I have read makemkv is necessary for handbrake to transcode bluerays. I don’t have a blue ray either but was looking into them a while back

“Contrary to the DVD CSS, which was definitely compromised once the unique encryption key had been discovered, Blu-ray uses stronger DRM mechanisms, which makes it a lot more difficult to manage. Firstly, the AACS standard uses a lot more complicated cryptographic process to protect the disc content, but also allows the industry to revoke compromised keys and distribute new keys through new discs. Secondly, Blu-ray may also use another layer of protection: BD+. Although most of commercial discs use AACS, a few of them additionally use BD+. In 2007, the AACS system was compromised and decryption keys were published on the Internet. Many decryption programs were made available, but the interest to Linux users was the capability of playing their discs - legally purchased - on their computers. Although the industry was able to revoke the first leaked decryption keys, new keys are regularly published in a cat and mouse play.”

From Arch:

the second-to-last sentence is my desire. The last sentence is my fear.

No Guts No Glory

when you get to 2.0 - 2.2 it’s going to be a little battle and user-proactivity. But I am game

Yer I don’t have a bluray or dvd drive but I have 100s of DVDs and heaps of games just sitting in drawers. I was thinking about getting a drive at some point too.

I actually had to use makemkv with another program that was not handbrake and had limited luck.

handbrake is a beautiful wrecking ball I use a lot. did not read about it and bluray..graci for the info

At 30 minutes a conversion, my DVD-to-DIGITAL Plan took a lazy nosedive this year.

Yer I remeber years ago converting my DVDs and it would take about an hour or so and then I realised I was rarely watching any of them (I rarely watch things more than 2 or 3 times) so I decided it was a waste of my time and disk space.

from the research I’ve done so far the answer to my question is ‘possibly.’

Just bought the BluRay, region A (usa), used, fer cheap. Possibly is good enough :slight_smile:

It’s a real shame UltraViolet didn’t really catch on.

The premise being, that using that platform, you could centralise and digitally access media you’d purchased, regardless of whether it was originally physical or digital.

An UltraViolet account was a digital rights locker where licenses (effectively receipts) for purchased content were stored and managed irrespective of the point of sale. The account holder was allowed to share their library with 5 other users, which were called members.

Consumers could acquire UltraViolet rights by purchasing a physical disc that included an UltraViolet activation code, by purchasing a movie directly from an electronic retailer (a.k.a. EST, or Electronic sell-through), or by using a disc to digital service (D2D). Disc to digital services allowed consumers to insert a DVD or Blu-ray into their computer’s disc drive, scan it to verify ownership, and then add it to their UltraViolet collection for a fee.

Now wouldn’t it be nice to buy a movie on one of the current platforms, and know you now own the rights to watch that, regardless of the platform? Or as you’re doing @drunkenvicar, add movies you have the physical media for, to a perpetually accessible digital library.

I think I remember seeing this on a few movies back in the day

Meaning if you bought the disk they’d offer a free service to make mp4s for you. I love it.

Not quite free. A fee was involved in adding that to your UltraViolet collection, but it did mean you now retained legal, cloud based viewing rights to it.

It never really caught on enough to become relevant though. In an ideal world, more of the major streaming providers would have adopted it, but for various reasons, it looks like that never happened.

They’re largely fencing off various properties behind their own streaming services these days.

FWIW, I use makemkv to rip Blu-rays from a Pioneer BDR-XDO8UMB-S external USB-C BD R/W. It’s capable of reading 4K Blu-rays too, but I’ve not had any to try. R/Ws DVDs and CDs as well. I’ve read both, but haven’t written any optical discs in over a decade.

Maybe a year or so ago there was a four to six month period where makemkv couldn’t decode the very newest BDs I got from Japan, but it got past that. Ones I bought in mid-May ripped perfectly, as did others that wouldn’t rip, once the code was updated.

I still have plenty of cheap storage from before the recent price increases, so I’ve not felt the need to compress any of them with handbrake. I have it installed, I just don’t use it. I’m thinking of it to extract a couple of songs (chapters) from a recent concert BD, but I’m not really highly motivated since smplayer lets me select chapters. I might do it for use on the spinning-rust drive I have connected to the TV.

thank for this clarity.

So this whole strict ZONE (a,b,c) thing is irrelevant when Linux comes into play. Interesting. I guess that Zone thing is just to police the BluRay physical box *players…*ok this is re-assuring, thank you, especially about makemkv

I also have a Sony zone-free 4K BD player for the TV. As I recall, it was about $100 more than the same model with zones. Amazon is your friend…

I bought it and used it during the period when makemkv couldn’t decode new BDs.

For the record, there’s a difference between regular BDs (1080p or 1920x1080) and 4K BDs (2160p or 3480x2160).