Exactly my point. Might be because if you look in the webinstall for Xfce, Blueman is CHECKED by default and yes, when I booted in first time the bluetooth icon was showing in the panel by default and indeed when clicking on it it immediately started searching for appliances to pair with so it definitely was turned on.
I did an Online install so the ISO was fron September, but I updated the Installer then chose Online Install.
And blueman should not be installed by default (but it was checked under the Xfce options as part of Xfce, I checked because I always UNcheck the Xfce media player, I never use it), it is one of the options in the welcome app to install after the fact if you want bluetooth.
Last time, three weeks ago. I did an OFFline install and then Blueman was NOT installed by default.
Big DE have their own bluetooth software installed by default (I use KDE and it comes with bluez-qt installed). But the bluetooth systemd service ought to be disabled by default on a fresh install, so bluetooth will not work.
And on the two editors, I agree and I would like to remove mousepad and have xed there instead only, but mousepad is the default editor from xfce4… and still causing issues if used with root rights…
SO what to do? leaving it on mousepad only?
Correct me if I am wrong but I don’t think Linux is able to autostart services if you start an app, right? Unlike Windows? So it must have been running if I started Blueman and it didn’t complain about bluetooth services not running?
i just start a test install with the sept ISO updated welcome and do a xfce4 online install, we will see i do plu a BT dongle and on live session BT is disabled, waiting now to see installed system in some time.
we could set the bt tray to not be started in settings, what would be better then but if one does want BT then one does not have the tray…
In my opinion, it will be best to not install blueberry again, we add it as users were complaining a default BT manager was missing before…
Also it is that on online install there is only xed installed:
Caused by the cleaner script do uninstall mousepad, we do only forget to remove mousepad from the netinstall list…
I don’t have a screenshot of it, but I opened the Xfce4 checkbox in the net install and yes, Blueman is listed there, and was auto-checked since well the main Xfce4 checkbox was checked. It is from the version of the net install on the September ISO.