Arch Linux Gui or EndeavourOS

Hello, everyone :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:
Just like EndeavourOS, arch Linux Gui (ALG) provides vanilla arch experience out of the box
Using calamarus installer

So how endeavouros is better than alg,
Since they both do the same thing

The project is looking nice,here are some details

Like Arch Linux, ALG has a monthly release schedule. New ISOs on 1st of every month.

ALG is not a distribution. With that been said, it is not an Arch Linux based distribution either. It is Arch Linux itself, ready to use. This is an attempt to bring Vanilla Arch Linux to directly to users

I haven’t tried Arch Linux GUI.

If done well, it should work exactly like EndeavourOS installer.

EndeavourOS, in addition to a GUI installer, also has

  1. a small repo of useful utilities
  2. a website, with wiki
  3. community editions
  4. custom branding
  5. really spiffy XFCE edition

and the best of all:

  1. this forum.

But other than that, yeah, it’s Arch with an installer.

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Hello @Kresimir

How many extra packages, does come with endeavour os

Than vanilla arch

Currently, 41.

They do not come with EndeavourOS, they are in the endeavouros repo, so you can install them with pacman.

pacman -Slq endeavouros

akm
arc-gtk-theme-eos
arc-x-icons-theme
bashdb
calamares_config_next
calamares_current
ckbcomp
downgrade
endeavouros-keyring
endeavouros-mirrorlist
endeavouros-skel-i3wm
endeavouros-skel-xfce4
endeavouros-theming
endeavouros-xfce4-terminal-colors
eos-apps-info
eos-bash-shared
eos-hooks
eos-log-tool
eos-rankmirrors
eos-skel-ce-bspwm
eos-skel-ce-sway
eos-translations
eos-update-notifier
grub-tools
grub2-theme-endeavouros
inxi
keyserver-rank
mkinitcpio-openswap
nvidia-hook
nvidia-installer-db
nvidia-installer-dkms
pahis
paper-icon-theme
polybar
rate-mirrors-bin
reflector-bash-completion
reflector-simple
virtualbox-ext-oracle
welcome
yad-eos
yay

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Lets try EndeavourOS

Currently downloading…

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@sanam

Welcome to EndeavourOs Forum

look like one :wink: . Use what fit you best + enjoy your Linux journey :vulcan_salute:

Just going to state the obvious here. Downloading and installing random ISO’s from source forge without thoroughly vetting the source is a very bad idea.

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Well, I’m kind of confused by this claim by them. From what I see if a distribution gets customized and re-branded as another it becomes its own distribution based on another. Going through their site I just understood only one thing it’s eos from another smaller team from India. Seems their main is KDE-based one.

The core team seems to be 4 members and the project seems to be 9 months old. It’s best to wait and see where this project going to.

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I say at least once do a vanilla install of Arch the Wiki way. It is a wonderful journey to appreciate building it from the ground up and creating packages into an install script you can host on github if you ever want to refresh.

The wiki is not hard, but it is time consuming the first time round.

After that experience then just use Endeavour for convenience. As time goes by there will be more support/maintenance button tools included but good to learn the actual commands behind them too.

Arco Linux is also a good close to vanilla. Pretty whacky website though makes it look dodgey.

These other GUI installers claiming to install vanilla Arch and only packages you choose might not be the case. For example Calam Arch installer decides to install reiserfsprogs package without choice.

Go vanilla Arch wiki way for learning encryption install then go distro for convenience in future to carry on learning. Don’t need to keep re-installing “Arch way” multiple times.

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I believe that user support is a big factor in any installer / distro. I would be waiting to see what kind of forum support they end up providing. The existing Arch Linux forum, or their own forum?

The biggest out of the box factor for EndeavourOS was the existing Antergos forum. I don’t remember how long the Antergos forum had been around, 7 or 8 years? Anyway it was well established and more friendly than the average forum. @Bryanpwo recognized this and wanted to preserve the Antergos forum. That was a huge factor is his decision for EndeavourOS.

Pudge

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Thnak you everyone , i must say, forum support of endeavour os is promising

everything is build on Arch even a easy arch installer or a arch-based distribution = not arch :slight_smile:

so alg is has its own thing , is bad to compare also :slight_smile:

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You can’t go wrong with EOS! Welcome @sanam to the purple side where you blast off into the universe of an almost vanilla Arch install with some special tools to help you on your journey.

we also changed Calamares for everyone need and also added nvidia, that also take some space as for the iso. Endeavour is bit vanille but this is for more bit experienced users too (alg) :slight_smile:

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The first time I read this, I thought the OP was referring to the new guided Arch install that can be used from the Arch .iso. . . This sounds like nothing I would want to use after I read it.

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You are wrong. The best thing that this forum and distro has and no other forum/distro do is…a turkey. Gobble gobble

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If you don’t want any of the EOS tools and prefer a “purer” Arch system just deselect them during install. A better option IMHO than the Arch GUI installer.

This is what is truly great about the latest EOS online installer, you can make your system as minimal as possible if you wish, it is up to you what you choose to install.

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what is the difference between Vanilla Arch and EOS with systemd services, networking and any other system differences or are they essentially the same ?

I guess it would really depend on how you setup Arch for yourself.

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As fbodymechanic says, it depends.

Just for an example, here’s what is enabled in a really minimal Arch installation, using the latest version of the archinstall script, which is now included on the ISO. This installation has no desktop environment installed at all - as I said, really minimal.


dbus.service
getty@tty1.service
kmod-static-nodes.service
ntpd.service
systemd-journal-flush.service
systemd-journald.service
systemd-logind.service
systemd-networkd.service
systemd-random-seed.service
systemd-remount-fs.service
systend-resolved.service
systemd-sysctl.service
systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
systemd-udev-trigger.service
systemd-update-utmp.service
systemd-user-sessions.service
user-runtime-dir@1000.service
user@1000.service

I don’t have an EndeavourOS system to compare this with, sorry.

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