Apple is moving from Intel to ARM

Apple naturaly is on control on there hardware. is like rebranding stuf you create a new generation of device. thats just income also to protect some income. if you dont change nothing you dont earn to much… Change to arm is a huge step. so Apple fans will likely to buy it

I liked the old Imacs, although I never owned any of them. The corporate network had IBM machines, HP Compaq for my own use.

In addition to hardware, Apple has always been known for its design. We’ll see. It may again be a separate Mac and pc than in pre-Intel times.

is just what strategy is… Intel based apple operating systems is probably simpler to hack to pc, is illegal with hackintosh but its a strategy with this you bann on some point that to make users addicted to apple os :slight_smile:

is like MS let ms office illegal in china, to create a addiction to need it and makes its standards.

thats how companys work

Microsoft is very shady company outside US.

but also on one point arm is also matured could be a logical step but for intel based mac users could be a pain later on

What exactly do you mean by that?

Apple will find a way to thermal throttle their products. They continue to cripple their desktop system. Their computers continue to be more and more expensive.

I grew up with Mac OS 8,9 and X. Switched to Linux when they stopped supporting NVidia cards. I could go back if I switch back to AMD GPUs, but Linux has proven to be superior to macOS, so good riddance Apple.

‘… and where they are made…’

I rather suspect that most computer components are made in China. I am a long-term Mac user and I have always loved their computers (apart from when that Italian bloke was running Apple into the ground before Steve Jobs came back). The hardware is really first class but quite expensive but you get a lot of bang for your bucks (horrible American expression - sorry) with the iMacs. My current other machine is a Mac Mini with a 4K LG display (non-Apple). Of course, the big issue is always the software. The OS is great but you get what you are given - no arguments. Apple is now moving away from Intel - aren’t we all? My Asrock Deskmini A300 is AMD with an AMD Ryzen CPU. It lacks the quality of Apple, I grant you, but with Arch Linux it is a super computer. Apple will call their ARM chips Apple Silicon. My raspberry Pi 3 is ARM as well, isn’t it?

I think on productiin is not cheaper those chips will be made in us

Hey, finally a man who used Classic Mac OS. :slight_smile: I first saw a Mac in the 90s, when it wasn’t even Windows 95. To this day, I don’t know why Apple had to switch to Intel in 2005.

PowerPC was simply not competitive any longer. Intel is getting R&D returns from millions of chips sold yearly. PowerPC was not able to pay for the same level of R&D while having mainly Apple as a customer. In the later days Intel was simply much more powerful than the same-gen PowerPC.

Pretty much the same reason that Apple went to PowerPC in the first place. Motorola were superior to both, but didn’t sell enough to compete with the juggernaut of MS/Intel (I won’t get into how that happened - the anti-trust suit against MS might give you an idea). When Motorola stopped fighting, PowerPC still had a future (and was easy to port to) so Apple went that way until they had no real choice. It as interesting the things they tried to do to prevent Hackintoshes, though!

I think that what we DON’T know though, is what prompted the timing of this move - there may be something exciting coming down the ARM pipeline (or at least the Apple branches of it) that will make it clearer. Otherwise a side step to AMD might have made sense…

With the OS, we really get what we have, for both Microsoft and Apple. MacOs has evolved a lot since Jobs returned. There have also been test sites where High Sierra has proven to be better than Windows 10.

This raises the question that at the time in 2005, Jobs did not think about ARM?

I definitely consider MacOS better than Windows (which I haven’t used for at least 20 years), but I’m not a gamer. I think MacOS is excellent and I enjoy Arch Linux, but I use the two computers for different things.

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Apple’s software has always been mostly great. Computers have not, since 2013. The decline really started when they switched their focus on iPods and later the iPhone.

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I think the same. MacOs have evolved a lot, especially since the early 2000s. Although I risk that the Classic Mac Os was also better than Windows 95/98. As for Microsoft, it was Windows 2000 that was a very stable system. After that, maybe Windows 7 was what worked out pretty well.

Personally I think the main reason was that Intel/AMD pipeline didn’t have something that apple needs or wants. Intel and AMD of course develop their pipeline with consumers and other clients in mind. And then there is Apple, who propably would have wanted something more customised to their needs and neither of the two could provide it in the near future. Intel is struggling with its 10nm line and AMD has other things needing to be fixed.

TSMC is already developing the 5nm production line which apple will propably use next year when its ready.

But those apple cpu is apple own cpu .