Any Linux distro underperforms with Intel graphics card - it lags when using web browsers

unix_lover · February 19, 2020, 7:11am

Did they manage to get it working?

unix_lover · February 19, 2020, 7:17am

I also followed this tutorial on how to do modsetting.

So I followed exactly what this guy did, and I also rebooted the system. But same old lag. I am not sure if I am even using the modesetting drivers?

ricklinux · February 19, 2020, 12:16pm

It is my understanding from reading on the Arch forums that the modesetting driver is better on kde.

unix_lover · February 19, 2020, 12:18pm

For some reason it makes no difference

Ok so according to a user there is some dell software that I should try and install for optimisation. I will give that a try soon.

SGS · February 19, 2020, 2:15pm

Buy a cheap AMD GPU, or something cheap from NVIDIA.
I upgraded my GPU late for “Blender” and I never had problems with the Intel GPU before.
As a consolation an avatar, (and so I don’t have to see this pink one with the U here anymore

ricklinux · February 19, 2020, 4:45pm

Make sure you are looking specifically at the hardware you have. Is it the Intel i965 or i915? There are differences so make sure you are looking at the right info.

Edit: What i’m getting at is there are two different things here. There is no i965 module, i915 handles all GPUs. Only mesa has separate i915 and i965 drivers. So there is a lot of stuff to look at as you have been doing. Trial and error i guess.

unix_lover · February 19, 2020, 11:14pm

I actually don’t know as much about laptops than with desktops, see I have an integrated Intel graphics card, is it possible to remove the graphics card and put an AMD graphics card?

Oh nice, what laptop do you have?

Lol thanks mate, I am now using it

SGS · February 19, 2020, 11:18pm

You do not write about Laptop, my desktop motherboard has on board GPU,
so I think you must live with this.
And I do not read all 66 posts
tl-dr-blue

unix_lover · February 19, 2020, 11:19pm

It just shows this for the graphics card on Windows, I will have to try and find out I will do a search.

Is Mesa from Intel itself? And yes there is a lot of trials and errors over here, but I hope it works out.

unix_lover · February 19, 2020, 11:20pm

Oh lol

unix_lover · February 19, 2020, 11:22pm

By the way are you using a dell laptop?

SGS · February 19, 2020, 11:25pm

No, old atx board ~2012, last Bios 2013.

Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P8Z77-V DELUXE v: Rev 1.xx serial: <root required> BIOS: American Megatrends 
           v: 2104 date: 08/13/2013

ricklinux · February 20, 2020, 12:45am

Mesa is separate not Intel.

https://forum.manjaro.org/t/screen-tearing-and-lagging-using-intel-open-source-drive-i915/95065

unix_lover · February 20, 2020, 5:08am

Maybe I am doing something wrong? I know for a fact that MX Linux has a software which allows the user to disable or enable Intel drivers instead of using modsetting, is there a GUI software that gives the same options?

ricklinux · February 20, 2020, 5:09am

Are you sure about that. I have MX on here in vbox right now. Where did you see that? They have a driver installer for Nvidia. Normally if you uninstall the intel driver it automatically goes to modestting. That is my understanding.

Edit: Did you read through this that @joekamprad posted?

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Intel#Installation

unix_lover · February 20, 2020, 5:37am

So there is a software called MX Tweak and under Config Options I am presented with this option. Now the thing is that I have not installed that distro on my PC and I can’t test it out in live mode as you can see it will ask me to reboot.

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf

Ok so in the link you have provided me I have tried to add these lines into that file

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Intel Graphics"
    Driver      "intel"
    Option      "AccelMethod"    "sna"
EndSection

That didn’t appear to do anything.

I haven’t tried this yet but I will give this a shot and see if that makes a difference. But how do I tell if I have got i965 or i915? Is there a command I can enter into the console?

ricklinux · February 20, 2020, 5:55am

Well MX is a different animal and they have some things that others don’t. Have you tried MX to see how it works with these tools ?
So that setting tells it to use the Intel driver instead of modsetting because as i said before modsetting is the default.

Edit: Mine doesn’t have those settings because i have an Nvidia card.

unix_lover · February 20, 2020, 6:01am

I have tried it in live mode but when trying that option out to disable modesetting, it will prompt me for a reboot so I don’t think that is possible unless if I installed it.

Yeah I suppose.

joekamprad:

FILE /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-modesetting.confForce modesetting DDX

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Intel Graphics"
    Driver      "modesetting"
    Option      "AccelMethod"    "glamor"
    Option      "DRI"            "3"
EndSection

Would I replace Driver "modesetting" with i915 If I want to try and disable modesetting? (Honestly I can’t remember if I did or not, so much things going on)?

I guess modesetting is for Intel GPU?

Edit: That does not do anything when I did that.

memphis · June 7, 2022, 10:59am

I don’t know if your problem is actual but I write about this just in case.

I’ve had the same problem on Dell Latitude e7250 with Intel HD 5550 until I added additional 8 GB RAM stick and in effect my RAM started to work in dual channel mode. Earlier, I had only one RAM chip 8 GB and it worked in sigle channel.

Intel HD 5500 haven’t got own memory and uses RAM of computer and assuring the RAM works in dual channel doubles bandwidth of RAM.

I’m surprised because difference of GPU performance is significantly more noticebale on Linux. For example, on single channel RAM on Linux Mint Xfce i had merely about 2000 points on this test.

On Windows 10 I had about 3000 points.
After adding additional 8 GB RAM, i have about 3200 points on Linux Mint XFCE and about 3400 on Windows 10.

ringo · June 7, 2022, 1:30pm

Two time win 10 dif score?