this is for laptop / mobile
As much as Iād love a UEFI setting to disable Micro$oft Edge, I donāt think thatās the proper solution to this problem. 
Iāve already stopped using a smartphone (Iām going to get myself a Linux phone, in a year or two, if anything becomes of them). Iām this close 
to saying āto hell with it allā to all technology.
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That was just a reference to the ābackdoor featureā used in my first sentence..
Irony..
Btw, I use Windows just for gaming, so that is not a concern to me..
In addition to that, Iāll be using AM4 for the next 5 years..
I know that they have doing this for a long time already..
I want a Linux phone, but itās too expensive right now..
Windows for games and work remotely, Linux for everything else.
I wasnāt referring the Bios setting to Edge. I was saying that they need a Bios setting to disable Pluton just like TPM or anything else. I only mentioned Edge because itās just another splendid example of Microsoftās products aimed at keeping track of you and supplying you ads etc which to me is also just a back door through the browser.
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Iām afraid thatās not enough. As we see theyāre working at hardware level. And if theyāre doing it with phones they surely do it with computers. Once you suspect malicious intent, you canāt just exempt some areas which are too comfortable for you to also put an embargo on. Iām saying living in the woods off-grid is the only way.
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Ah yes, that tooā¦ 
But how would you know that the UEFI setting works and that it truly disables it? Take their word for it?
@nate exactly!
Itās going to get to that point.
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Well Iām sure Intelās processors will have the same or something similar or other? Iāll stick with AMD like i do with Firefox. I trust them more than Microsoft!
Intel, AMD, Microsoft, Apple, illusion of choice, same thing actually. As much as I like Firefox, theyāre in bed with Google. They had to, in order to survive. Who are they going to listen to when google tells them to dance? Their users, or their spouse who puts bread on the table?
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There is no place to run to, indeed.
We are reaching the compliance stageā¦
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why oh whyā¦ 
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I donāt use any APPLE product and probably never will. Currently Intel and or AMD is my only option. I use both. AMD is my main use now. The choice is yoursā¦this or that!
Itās not much of a choice, but yeah, given whatās on the table, AMD sucks the least. But the margin is decreasing rapidly.
Hoard current generation hardware 
The only game I have been playing is ONI, Oxygen not Includedā¦
I guess it runs in Linuxā¦
Edit: Sometimes I play rainbow six siegeā¦ but rarelyā¦
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Jesus man, you can play that on Linux iām sure.
Yes, you certainly can.
Just read my guide, make sure they work properly for you on Linux (if anything goes wrong - donāt hesitate to ask for help), and please delete that M$ garbage forever.
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Trust the forumās sommelier! 
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roflmao.
What a discussion 
Yeah, for sure, Microsoft is for us freaks, a bad thing. For Security for the normal user? Dont know. Im not that big expert in this field of security. For a User with a Brain and good Networkinfrastructure (firewall & co), a System from 1999 would be more as safe enoughā¦
Why? Intel have his āown kind of Plutonā already since years in there CPUS. Intel ME & co.
For me, only one REAL Solution exists: Donate so much money how somebody could to Open Source. Mainly to the Kernel, Mesa, and Driver devs.
Why? Because i want to use RISC or ARM so soon as possible. But until today, no really useable Hardware exist, and that, what exist, is so poor/bad supported (like the Rpi4).
Oh wow. What nostalgia. that was so great game.
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Just as AMD, but you can defuse it (admittedly you need some 
balls for it, but itās not impossible) unlike Pluton which is inside CPU which no amount of balls could defuse.
Indeed 
nice, Iāll try it, thanks
The only problem is my work, I need to RDP to machines from VPN use forticlient (fortigate vpn client), I have a ASDM installed (to manage Cisco), I have Checkpoint appsā¦ lots of stuff from workā¦
I could try to configure those in Linux, but I wouldnāt have any kind of support from helpdesk and things like that when neededā¦
If you need windoze for work, have your employer get you a laptop with windoze. Do not use that laptop for anything except work.
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